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Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« on: Wednesday 21 November 18 03:52 GMT (UK) »
Looking for information of Mary Pitt, married Samuel Withers 3 Dec 1761, at Birmingham, Warwick; mother of Edward Weston Withers and Harriot Margaret Cadaric Withers.
Would be glad to know if she was the Mary Pitt baptised 1 Oct 1743 at St Philip’s Birmingham, the daughter of William Pitt, no further information at this stage. I notice Family Search has 16 possible deaths all at Birmingham, but I cannot make any link to her husband Samuel or to her children.
You assistance gratefully received
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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 08:50 GMT (UK) »
1761 Marriage licence gives Mary Pitt as a Spinster of the parish of St Martin and age 23 years and upwards.

When was their last child born
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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Samuel Withers   Baptism    13 Oct 1738   Birmingham, St Martin   Benjamin

Only one Samuel born in Birmingham but two Mary Pitts.

Mary Pitt   Baptism    23 May 1738   Birmingham, St Martin   Thomas
Mary Pitt   Baptism    1 Oct 1743   Birmingham, St Philip   William

No age on original record but if Rosie is correct then the one born 1738 is below.

Mary Pitt       3 Dec 1761   Birmingham, St Martin   Samuel Withers
Both single, both signed and otp, witnesses John & Elizabeth Fox

Baptisms Birmingham, St Martin, parents Samuel & Mary
John Withers   25 Sep 1764
William Withers   5 May 1767
Samuel Withers   1 Aug 1769

I’m not sure about the following statement “mother of Edward Weston Withers and Harriot Margaret Cadaric Withers” Edward Weston Withers had a daughter Harriet Margaret Caradie Withers in 1804.

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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Burial 9 Nov 1851, Birmingham, St Bartholomew
Mary Withers born about 1838 abode Bromsgrove St.

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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 12:15 GMT (UK) »

I’ve managed to find Edward Weston Withers, parents Samuel & Mary baptised 9 Nov 1762
Saint Martin, he was not showing up with the others.

Marriage.
Edward Weston Withers   15 Jan 1801   Birmingham, St Martin   Elizabeth Dean

Harriet Margaret Caradie Withers   Baptism    6 Sep 1804   Birmingham, St Philip   Edward Weston & Elizabeth. Plus Edwin 1804, Elizabeth 1812

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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Colin, that is most helpful material and very useful; and thanks Rosie for the ML - that helps pin her down to a likely date.
Much appreciated.
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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 November 18 04:25 GMT (UK) »
Could I now turn this about and ask after Samuel Withers?
The only info I currently have is a possible birth date of 1738, presumably at Birmingham, but not at all sure; as well as his 1761 marriage to Mary Pitt (as earlier discovered); no death date and no occupation.
With many thanks
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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 02:02 GMT (UK) »
Re Edwin Withers, 1804-1888, baptized at St Phillips' 6 Sep 1804, Parents: Edward Weston & Elizabeth Withers, married Sarah Welch 5 Oct 1837 at St Thomas'.
1841 Census has him at Ravenhurst St Bordesley, Aston, Brm, a Tobacconist.
1851 at 49 Nursery Tce., Aston, Warwickshire, a Rope & Twine Manufacturer and Cigar Merchant until his death in 1888.
Have looked at various Trade and Post Directories, but have been unable to open the pages!! Weird.
Is it possible for verification in a Directory please?

His father, Edward Weston Withers 1762-1819, only appears as a Subscriber to A Complete System of Practical Arithmetic; with various branches in the mathematics ... to which is added ...Book-keeping, by single and double entry, 1783, TAYLOR, William; Birmingham. But again I cannot verify any Trade or similar Directory for this man. Your assistance would be appreciated.
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Re: Mary Pitt c1761 Birmingham
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 11:05 GMT (UK) »
1855 Birmingham Directory
Hemp & Flax Dealers
Edwin Withers 395 Farm St.

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