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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 20:12 GMT (UK) »
I haven't found CTE on the 1939 Register.  He was in the army at the time, having joined up in 1932 aged 18.  He didn't leave the army until after WWII.

We might be on the right track with the family moving around the country, as Charles progressed from bricklayer to builder's foreman and finally master builder.  My husband now recalls a story his father CTE told of the family travelling around in a horse drawn pantechnicon.

Witnesses to Charles  and Mary Ann's marriage were William Rhoads and Harry James Hollands..  Charles was a bachelor and only 5 years older than Mary Ann.

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Father is on 1939
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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Father is on 1939
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Can you give us a clue from the free index info?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Well - this fits, in some areas

 1901 - 73 Trant [?] Road Croydon

John H Chapman    60 - retired civil engineer, b Herstmonceaux
Alice Chapman    46 - b dublin
Alice L Chapman    25 - b India
John H Chapman    20  b India
William J Chapman    22  b India
Charles Chapman    19 b India, apprentice Croydon School Board
Ernest A Chapman    15  b Tunbridge Wells
Frank Chapman    12 - b South Norwood

[father is a retired army officer in 1891)


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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 20:58 GMT (UK) »
Tracing the Chapman/Rhoades children:

May??
Charles William Chapman, mmn Rhoades, Sep qtr 1903 Northampton (d Dec qtr 1906 Rochford aged 3)
William Henry Chapman, mmn Rhoades, Mar qtr 1905 Newhaven
Daisy Chapman, mmn Rhoades, Jun qtr 1906 Rochford
Mary Chapman, mmn Rhoades, b Mar qtr 1908 Coventry
Ellen Chapman, mmn Rhoades, b Jun qtr 1909 Coventry - “Nellie” in 1911
Lily Louisa Chapman, mmn Rhoades, b Dec qtr 1910 Eastbourne
Albert Charles Chapman, mmn Rhoades, b Mar qtr 1913 Rochford
Charles Thomas Edward Chapman, mmn Rhoades, b Jun qtr 1914 Thanet
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Wonder why on census they were shown as born Eastbourne?


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Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Picked out Frank born Norwood 1889, (Croydon) to check MMN shows POLLOTT

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Well - this fits, in some areas

 1901 - 73 Trant [?] Road Croydon

John H Chapman    60 - retired civil engineer, b Herstmonceaux
Alice Chapman    46 - b dublin
Alice L Chapman    25 - b India
John H Chapman    20  b India
William J Chapman    22  b India
Charles Chapman    19 b India, apprentice Croydon School Board <<<
Ernest A Chapman    15  b Tunbridge Wells
Frank Chapman    12 - b South Norwood

[father is a retired army officer in 1891)

Perhaps this is the corresponding baptism?

Presbyterian Church, Saharanpur, U.P., India

24 September 1883

Charles Chapman, born 18 August 1883.

Parents: John Henry Chapman (engineer in public works dept) & Allie.

Certified by a register extract taken on 30 May 1939.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 23:02 GMT (UK) »
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Well - this fits, in some areas

 1901 - 73 Trant [?] Road Croydon

That's probably Frant Road.
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