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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 13:43 GMT (UK) »
If you are using Ancestry they are under CHARMAN in 1911 at Eastbourne.

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Odd that Charles in 22 on marriage in 1902, and 38 by 1911 ???
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 14:12 GMT (UK) »
They have altered the number of years married to accommodate 'May' who is aged 12 and probably not born in Eastbourne.  She is not in the RHOADES household in 1901.

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Am I right in thinking Mary Ann Rhoades was 15 on 1901? wrong, sorry
It also appears unless I am mistaken that most of the siblings were born away from areas shown on 1911
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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I had dismissed Charles William Christopher Chapman as my Charles William's father was James Chapman - artist.  A pretty unusual occupation in 1902 I thought. 

According to the marriage certificate Charles was aged 22 and a bricklayer.

Mary Ann was actually aged 17 (she was born on 20/9/1885) and not 19 as recorded on the marriage certificate and a cook.  When their son Charles Thomas Edward was born in 1914, Charles was a builder's foreman.

Mary Ann's father was William Rhoads (also spelt Rhoades/Rhodes).  I'm ok with the Rhoads family.

I would be very surprised if Charles was born in Bombay.  What was the father's name?

Thanks

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 19:33 GMT (UK) »
One more clue? 

For some strange reason when son Charles Thomas Edward Chapman married in 1943 he gave his father's name as Albert Charles Chapman and occupation as master builder.  I assume he was still alive in 1943 as CTE Chapman's bride's father was recorded as deceased.

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 19:37 GMT (UK) »
Has CTE Chapman been found in the 1939 Register, in case he was with his parents?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Also, who were the witnesses to the 1943 marriage?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Trying to trace Charles William Chapman born approx 1880 lived in Croydon
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 November 18 19:47 GMT (UK) »
I do wonder if May was a child of Charles and not Miss Rhoades, he was at least 10years older upon marriage, was he a bachelor on his marriage cert?

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