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James Ball - Donnington Wood
« on: Thursday 22 November 18 14:40 GMT (UK) »
I have just traced my GG Grandparents, James & Mary Ball to Donnington Wood.
James was born circa 1820 & Mary circa 1821.

This is all I know so far, as I have only found them in a census for 1891 by which time they had moved to Longton, staffordshire and have one daughter Emma circa 1853 and a Granddaughter circa 1888.

Would anyone be able to shed any light on where I go from here?

Many thanks for any help you  can offer.

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 November 18 17:36 GMT (UK) »

No further censuses but the following may help?

James Ball parents James Ball & Sarah Latham
Baptism 13 Apr 1817 Donnington Wood, Shropshire

Possible marriage
James Ball
Marriage 3 Jun 1838
Madeley, Shropshire, England
Mary Tranter

1891 Stoke upon Trent   Age   
James Ball    71   Dunnington Wood, Shropshire   ,
Mary Ball    70      ditto
Emma Ball    28   Daughter born Stoke on Trent
Sarah Ball    5   Grand daughter ditto

James Ball Birth  about 1818
Death 04/1902 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire

Mary Kirk Ball Birth about 1823
Death 04/1903 Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 November 18 17:43 GMT (UK) »
It looks like the family were in Donnington Wood in 1851 (HO107/1998 folio 101 pg3).

Noah, shown as age 5, shows the mother's maiden name as Hayward on the GRO site.

The district was a big coal mining area, but is now more well known for England's football training centre.


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Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 November 18 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Marriage at Shiffnal, Feby 20th 1843:
James Ball, of full age, Bachelor, Miner, Oaken Gates, Richard Ball, Miner
Mary Hayward, of full age, Spinster, -, Oaken Gates, Robert Hayward, Collier
After Banns.
Witnesses: Moses Meredith, Ann Ball
All made their marks.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 November 18 19:28 GMT (UK) »
What about this family in 1871? It seems too close to be a coincidence.

15 Gate St, Stoke-on-Trent (RG10/2875 folio 31 pg 4):

Noah Ball, Head, Mar, 50, Coal Miner, Salop
Mary do, Wife, Mar, 50, , do
Noah do, Son, Unm, 24, Coal Miner, do
John do, Son, Unm, 22, do do, do
Emma do, Daur, Unm, 18, Transferer of Pottery, do
James do, Son, Unm, 12, Scholar, Staffordshire Longton

There's a matching birth registration for Emma in Q4 of 1853, MMN Hayward.

I think I've found Emma in 1881:
4 Gold St, Stoke-on-Trent (RG11/2733 folio 10 pg 14)
In the house of Charles Brain, 36, China Jiggerer
Emily Ball, Boarder, , 26, China Throwers Wheel Turner, Salop Dunnington Wood

Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 November 18 21:33 GMT (UK) »
From the Wellington Journal, 12 September 1857:
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 November 18 21:56 GMT (UK) »
1861 as Batt Stoke-on-Trent

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M74Z-7Q8

James Batt 38 Donnington Wood, Shropshire
Mary Batt    37
Richard Batt    12
John Batt    10
Norah Batt    8.....Noah
Eliza Batt    7
Emma Batt    5
Lewis Batt    4
James Batt    2
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 November 18 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Baptisms at Lilleshall:

1844 January 7th, Richard of, James & Mary, Ball, Donington Wood, Miner
1846 Febry 22nd, Noah son of, James & Mary, Ball, Donington Wood, Collier
1848 April 30, John, James & Mary, Ball, Donington Wood, Miner

Methodist Baptisms Telford North Circuit (Wrockwardine Wood):

1853 Sep:r 5th, Isaac, James and Mary, Ball, Donington Wood, Miner
1853 Oct 12, Emma, James and Mary, Ball, Don Wood, Miner
1857 Dec 12th, Sarah Ann, James and Mary, Ball, Donington Wood, Miner
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: James Ball - Donnington Wood
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 November 18 22:39 GMT (UK) »
1881 still in Gate Street  I think, names and ages are as
James Ball    65
Ann Ball    64
Noah Ball    30

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-DG7B
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives