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Why did only sons survive?
« on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:02 GMT (UK) »
I am curious to know why only the 3 boys of my gr grandfathers 10 children survived. All the girld died under 2 years of age.
Broom(e) - Staffs/Shropshire/ Durham
Burnett - Northumberland & Scottish Borders
Dickson - Scottish Borders/ Northumberland
Henry - Londonderry/ Durham
Morrell - Shropshire
Neale - Norfolk/Northumberland
Powell - Shropshire
Robson - Northumberland/Durham
Stott - Northumberland/Durham
Taylor- Holy Island/Bedlington
Vass- Inverness/ Newcastle/ Durham
Vickers- Cumberland/ Durham

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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Have you obtained any of the daughters' death certificates to identify their causes of death?  It may just be a matter of chance in each case that the girls died.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:06 GMT (UK) »
No particular reason, it could just as easily have been the girls that survived or a combination of both.
I would think.
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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:10 GMT (UK) »
How many girls? Did all 10 children have same mother?
When and where?



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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:21 GMT (UK) »
They all had the same mother and were born between 1866 and 1888 in Spennymoor area of County Durham. I have not obtained any of their death certificates as this would be too costly.
Broom(e) - Staffs/Shropshire/ Durham
Burnett - Northumberland & Scottish Borders
Dickson - Scottish Borders/ Northumberland
Henry - Londonderry/ Durham
Morrell - Shropshire
Neale - Norfolk/Northumberland
Powell - Shropshire
Robson - Northumberland/Durham
Stott - Northumberland/Durham
Taylor- Holy Island/Bedlington
Vass- Inverness/ Newcastle/ Durham
Vickers- Cumberland/ Durham

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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Only the death certificates can tell you the actual cause of death but perhaps if you have the years of the girls' respective deaths you can do an internet search to see if there were any epidemics in the area in those years.

For total number of children do you have their baptisms or birth certificates or are you going on the data from the 1911 census 'number of children born alive to present marriage & number still alive'?
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:43 GMT (UK) »
No Birth certs. only  info from Bishops Transcripts, Civil Registration , some baptism indexes Bmd indexes the 1911 census.
Broom(e) - Staffs/Shropshire/ Durham
Burnett - Northumberland & Scottish Borders
Dickson - Scottish Borders/ Northumberland
Henry - Londonderry/ Durham
Morrell - Shropshire
Neale - Norfolk/Northumberland
Powell - Shropshire
Robson - Northumberland/Durham
Stott - Northumberland/Durham
Taylor- Holy Island/Bedlington
Vass- Inverness/ Newcastle/ Durham
Vickers- Cumberland/ Durham

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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:45 GMT (UK) »
How many girls? Did all 10 children have same mother?
When and where?


Did all 10 children have same father? 

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Re: Why did only sons survive?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 November 18 16:59 GMT (UK) »
All 7 girls had the same mother and father.
Broom(e) - Staffs/Shropshire/ Durham
Burnett - Northumberland & Scottish Borders
Dickson - Scottish Borders/ Northumberland
Henry - Londonderry/ Durham
Morrell - Shropshire
Neale - Norfolk/Northumberland
Powell - Shropshire
Robson - Northumberland/Durham
Stott - Northumberland/Durham
Taylor- Holy Island/Bedlington
Vass- Inverness/ Newcastle/ Durham
Vickers- Cumberland/ Durham