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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #36 on: Monday 26 November 18 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Baptism of Lean Louis JACQUINOT  in Westminster London
transcribed as1832 but the original has clearly pen.marked birth as 1881 baptism year is 1882


Fathers name is Antoine.Victor (not Teller) Isidore JACQUINOT
 a shoe maket
mother is Sophie .

There seem to have been Jaquinot.s in London since 1830.s when a Antoine.Felix JAQUINOT married Sophie Josephine ?

May be someone could play around with
English censuses to link to the shoemaker or Isodore

Isodore Emilien JAQUINOT  died in 1875
May explain why child had to be fostered out .the fact that census has BS British subject may imply that Marie Amelia Vincent  needed some legal  document as her birth parents were French
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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #37 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Baptism of Lean Louis JACQUINOT  i Westminster London
transcribed as1832 buthe original has clearly pen.marked birth as 1881 baptism year is 1882


Fathers name is Antoine.Victor (not Teller)
Isidore JACQUINOT a shoe maket
mother is Sophie .

There seem to have been Jaquinot.s in London since 1830.s when a Antoine.Felix JAQUINOT married Sophie Josephine ?

May be someone could play around with
English censuses to link to the shoemaker or Isodore

Isodore Emilien JAQUINOT  died in 1875
May ex plain why child had to be fostered out .the fact that census has BS British subject may imply that Marie Amelia Vincent  havery needed some legal  document as her parents were French

You have done so well Brigid.  I think you are right about the death of Isodore might have precipitated bringing the children to England.  I wonder if the mother died in England?  I will doing some scouring of census in England for the family.

That baptism at St Anne's Westminster - I read it as Jean Louis Jacquinot and also I think its born 29 December 1831 and baptised 23 September 1832. More than likely a relation though. The mother was Sophie Josephine, possibly the same lady in the marriage you mention above?

Thank you
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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #38 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:42 GMT (UK) »

Well the ones we do know for sure are Isodore Emilien  and Marie Emilie whose parENTS are named on their marriage

So look out for surnames HERARD BAUDOT  and COLSON on any trees of people whose DNA does match
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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #39 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:54 GMT (UK) »

Well the ones we do know for sure are Isodore Emilien  and Marie Emilie whose parENTS are named on their marriage

So look out for surnames HERARD BAUDOT  and COLSON on any trees of people whose DNA does match

Yes spot on.  I had not thought of checking those names.  I will have a check now.
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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #40 on: Monday 26 November 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »

Well the ones we do know for sure are Isodore Emilien  and Marie Emilie whose parENTS are named on their marriage

So look out for surnames HERARD BAUDOT  and COLSON on any trees of people whose DNA does match



Yes spot on.  I had not thought of checking those names.  I will have a check now.
Belinda

Colson surname has a link but the DNA shows this:

Predicted relationship: Distant Cousins
Possible range: 5th - 8th cousins

So a bit of a long shot? 

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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #41 on: Monday 26 November 18 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Not too long of a shot because Coulson was Isodore s mothers name  so the link could be via her parents or grandparents who may well have been English
Will they let you look at trees or say if have any French connections

Worth asking them ....about their mutual tree matches ....do they match by location?     Have you tried putting in match search with location of France and seeing if any of your DNA  matches have people in France on their trees if you search Coulson surname and France  location does anyone come up .
 :D I've a good feeling about this
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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #42 on: Monday 26 November 18 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Not too long of a shot because Coulson was Isodore s mothers name  so the link could be via her parents or grandparents who may well have been English
Will they let you look at trees or say if have any French connections

Worth asking them ....about their mutual tree matches ....do they match by location?     Have you tried putting in match search with location of France and seeing if any of your DNA  matches have people in France on their trees if you search Coulson surname and France  location does anyone come up .
 :D I've a good feeling good about this

I will do everything you suggest and get back to you.  Yes I can see the tree with the Colson match.  I think I will do an great deal more digging before I approach anyone.  :-\

Annoyingly I have to out tomorrow to something I have been looking forward to but this Mary Vincent thing seems so much more exciting right now.

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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #43 on: Monday 26 November 18 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Yes I'm thrilled by The French Connection

I love all the exotic names and the fact that they don't seem to Angliscise them too much .

I've  found a few documents I've never seen before for Jacquinot s

Alien arrival in UK

 a girls marriage as a minor(mineur) but won't list them on here unless we know it's the same family

Thanks for providing the challenge btw I used to live in France so should be able to translate documents
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Re: Finding an adopted child's real parents 1870's.
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 29 November 18 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Re DNA matches
Did you put in name and location ?

have you tried a search with just France as location. No names

Does the Coulson connection person still show up as a match
Do you have any distant cousins with a French connection according to DNA ...if there are any look closely at the map for matched locations  sometimes people  put Paris when they mean France .maybe Marne will come up..the matching arrows are the green ones .but yours will come up as south of France if that is what's on your tree.

....looking forward to your feedback
I'm liking these Jaquinot leads .
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