Author Topic: Daniel ROGERS born 1851 Minera, Denbighshire.  (Read 247 times)

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Daniel ROGERS born 1851 Minera, Denbighshire.
« on: Friday 23 November 18 20:10 GMT (UK) »
Dan Rogers baptised daughter Elizabeth on 27 Feb 1898 at Gwersyllt, Denbighshire. Mother's name is given as Mary Jane.

The couple baptised many more children (using name Daniel this time) and all at Gwersyllt.

In 1901 census Daniel dob. 1847, is the manager of the working men's club at Summerhill, Gwersyllt - his place of birth is given as Minera.  Mary Jane's dob 1867 & birthplace Tryddyn, Flintshire.

In 1911 Sarah is listed as a widow (Daniel died 1909 - a mistranscription gives his date of birth as 1871 but the image states 58 so this should this read 1851 - which fits in with dob. in 1901.

I cannot find seem to find a marriage for the couple anywhere. The baptisms confirm Mary Jane is the mother of the children, although because of the big difference in Daniel & Mary Jane's ages I'd wondered whether he had been married before. But whether he had or not, I need to find the maiden name of Mary Jane to place her with her parents and also her marriage to Daniel. I've checked marriages of Mary Janes marriages and Daniel Rogers marriages in Denbighshire and Flintshire without luck.

There is a marriage of Daniel Rogers to Jane Roberts in Gwersyllt on 10 June 1871 but that is too early for my Mary Jane. As the eldest child, Minnie, is born 1886 I would expect a marriage early 1880's.

Can anyone help with this please ?

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Re: Daniel ROGERS born 1851 Minera, Denbighshire.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 November 18 20:37 GMT (UK) »
you need to look back at previous census years. Minnie isn't the oldest child and Mary Jane couldn't possibly be the mother of Mary Ann born 1872 and others. You can find the mmn by looking up the birth records on the GRO site, free to use but you need to register

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Daniel ROGERS born 1851 Minera, Denbighshire.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 November 18 20:40 GMT (UK) »
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Try this to plot mother's maiden name, free and easy to use

Louisa Maud


Sorry have been beaten to it !!
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Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
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Re: Daniel ROGERS born 1851 Minera, Denbighshire.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 November 18 20:49 GMT (UK) »
thought I'd just said that...

Registration of daughter Amy in 1880 shows mmn of Lewis

First marriage
Daniel Rogers dec qtr 1871 Wrexham vol 11b pg 569 with Sarah Lewis on the same page

Later children have Jones as mmn
Daniel Rogers dec qtr 1885 Wrexham vol 11b pg 450 with Mary Jane Jones on the same page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Daniel ROGERS born 1851 Minera, Denbighshire.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 November 18 21:02 GMT (UK) »
You had but there is a time delay, look at the timing Osprey, 3 seconds

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Daniel ROGERS born 1851 Minera, Denbighshire.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 November 18 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Louisa Maud & Osprey.  I think I could learn a lot from you both.  ;D