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William Black and Frances Orange?
« on: Saturday 24 November 18 19:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I've come across a possible marriage for an Ancestor but Im not sure if the transcription is correct.
Its been transcribed as 'William Black & Frances Orange were married' the Marriage is 1661 Crowland, Lincolnshire.
Are their names correct? It looks like another word in between Black and &?
Dudley of Cosby, Odstone and Swepstone, Leicestershire.
Richard Dudley, Gent 1681-1746. Son of Richard Dudley, Gent 1655-1710. Son of Henry Dudley, Esq 1620-1688.  Son of Thomas Dudley, Gent & Vintner 1589-1660. Member of the Worshipful Company of Vintners.

Bent of Cosby & Littlethorpe, Leicestershire.
George Bent, Gent of Cosby 1620-1693. Grt Grt Grandson of Thomas Bent, Esq of Cosby Manor 1514-1555
John Bent, Labourer of Cosby 1701-1765. 4th Grt Grandson of Thomas Bent, Esq of Cosby Manor.

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Re: William Black and Frances Orange?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 November 18 19:35 GMT (UK) »
William Black and  Frances Orayne ? :-\

Can't work out the word after Black
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Re: William Black and Frances Orange?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 November 18 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Frances Crayne possibly?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Black and Frances Orange?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 November 18 19:44 GMT (UK) »
There seems to be 2 transcriptions circulating on FindMyPast.
One has been transcribed as 'William Blackshaw & Frances Crayne' the other as 'William Black & Frances Orange'

Im fairly certain you are correct with Crayne but Im not totally convinced that its 'Blackshaw'
Dudley of Cosby, Odstone and Swepstone, Leicestershire.
Richard Dudley, Gent 1681-1746. Son of Richard Dudley, Gent 1655-1710. Son of Henry Dudley, Esq 1620-1688.  Son of Thomas Dudley, Gent & Vintner 1589-1660. Member of the Worshipful Company of Vintners.

Bent of Cosby & Littlethorpe, Leicestershire.
George Bent, Gent of Cosby 1620-1693. Grt Grt Grandson of Thomas Bent, Esq of Cosby Manor 1514-1555
John Bent, Labourer of Cosby 1701-1765. 4th Grt Grandson of Thomas Bent, Esq of Cosby Manor.

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Re: William Black and Frances Orange?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 November 18 20:21 GMT (UK) »
I'm pretty sure about Crayne now I've looked at other names on the page, there are a couple of Clarkes and the C is very similar. The letter after the k of Black is an s & I've seen h look like that so Blackshaw is a contender.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Black and Frances Orange?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 November 18 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Blackshaw and Crayne from me.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: William Black and Frances Orange?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 November 18 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Blackshaw and Crayne from me.

Snap from me.

The letters after Black look like 'shaw' - classic long 's', then the hook 'h', as osprey says, the tail of which goes right up to the 'w'.
The first letter of 'Crayne' is the classic capital 'C'. As osprey says, it's a good idea to compare strange letters to others on the same page to see if that helps. 
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: William Black and Frances Orange?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 24 November 18 21:45 GMT (UK) »
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