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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 November 18 21:18 GMT (UK) »
I am resonably sure seaweed is on the right track here. It is the "Crossing the Line" certificate that you refer to and a troopship would never at that time be named. These vessels had coded names. For example when CITY OF VENICE was lost her coded name was HMT AA.1.
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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 November 18 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Hugh,
Daft question. Would a Royal Navy ship hold a "Crossing the Line" ceremony in June 1941?
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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 17:59 GMT (UK) »
The answer would be yes, seaweed. It would be down to the captain to decide but there is evidence of this happening throughout the war including 1941.
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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 09:18 GMT (UK) »
I've just finished reading 'Till we meet again' by Bert Martin and Hazel Spencer. Included in the book are accounts of two crossing the line ceremonies aboard the trooper Rangitiki in 1941 while en route for Egypt.
Walker- Tideswell  DBY
Conboy - Greagh LET
Wilson - Bradfield WRY
Prior  - LET
Sanderson - WRY
Graham - GLS
Such - GLS
Moffatt - LND
Hudson - KEN DOR
Prebble - KEN
Ling - SFK
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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 12:42 GMT (UK) »
RANGITIKI sailed as an independent from Bermuda 32.17 N on Thursday 5/June/1941. She arrived Belfast 17/June/1941.
Assuming she sailed direct her position on 9/June 1941 would have been roughly South West of the Azores 37.74 N
So a fair few miles from the Equator.
My own records and http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/ports/index.html?search.php?vessel=RANGITIKI~armain
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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 13:22 GMT (UK) »
In the book, based on the authorís diaries, he records left Freetown 21 Aug 1941 and line crossing ceremony was 3-4 days later en route for Durban.
Second ceremony was on 19 September after leaving Durban en route for Aden.
This ties in nicely with data in your link to the Arnold Hague database.

This is a replacement post as first attempt seems to have vanished into the ether.
Walker- Tideswell  DBY
Conboy - Greagh LET
Wilson - Bradfield WRY
Prior  - LET
Sanderson - WRY
Graham - GLS
Such - GLS
Moffatt - LND
Hudson - KEN DOR
Prebble - KEN
Ling - SFK
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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 13:47 GMT (UK) »
The original poster gives the date of the incident as 9/June/1941.
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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 14:16 GMT (UK) »
I wasn't suggesting that Rangitiki might be F 17!

I was agreeing that crossing the line ceremonies took place in WW2!
Walker- Tideswell  DBY
Conboy - Greagh LET
Wilson - Bradfield WRY
Prior  - LET
Sanderson - WRY
Graham - GLS
Such - GLS
Moffatt - LND
Hudson - KEN DOR
Prebble - KEN
Ling - SFK
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: What kind of vessel??
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 20 April 19 15:17 BST (UK) »
Only just caught up with this thread.  I am with Seaweed on this.  HMT would have been His Majesty's transport.  F17 would refer to the vessels position in a convoy.  Column and number.  This designation would be specific to that convoy and would be discarded on arrival at destination.

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