William stynes

[Dundee]

Probably Irish William's baptism in 1844 at Athy, the son of James STYNES and Anne BYRN(E)

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633304#page/78/mode/1up

Liverpool William's birth registration:

STYNES, WILLIAM
Mother's maiden surname: ROTHWELL
GRO Reference: 1848  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 449

Debra 

[hallmark]

Ahh..   

[dathai]

There is also this William who died in Athy district 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05083/4394963.pdf

1901 a widower
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Killabban/Ballyfoyle/1644536/

second marriage Aug 1901 to Mary Doyle
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10318/5756112.pdf

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Killabban/Ballyfoyle/785953/

[Emcan783]

I think I’ve got myself all confused so many Williams I think I’ll take it back a generation and start again.

Thank you all for your help.

[Dundee]

There is also this William who died in Athy district 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05083/4394963.pdf

That William was too young.

Ellen with sons Michael and Joseph in 1901.  There are birth registrations for both of them, parents William STYNES and Ellen MAHER.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000897706/

Debra 

[dathai]

James of William and Ellen Maher  Dec 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02883/2056648.pdf

moved to Dublin where he married Kathleen Murray in Sep 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09958/5620615.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Seville_Place_Cottages__4th_Avenue/1277330/

1911 with brother Michael
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Usher_s_Quay/James_s_St_/62309/

Michael married Bridget Byrne in 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09729/5530082.pdf

both boy's worked for Guinness giving exact dates of birth

James joined 1902 and left in 1917 he does not appear to have had any children born during this time

Michael joined in 1910 and died in 1972 spouse Bridget
https://www.guinness-storehouse.com/en/archives/archives-genealogy

[Emcan783]

That’s some great information thank you. I’ll have to see if I can tie them in to my tree, after taking it back to the beginning I know really don’t know where to go I have a William stynes 1823 Ireland died Liverpool 1853 this is my Williams dad his wedding certificate says his dad is james family says he was married to Margaret dowling I’ve not found anything yet but I’m really enjoying looking.  Once again thank you all for helping me see where I got confused. 😊

[Dundee]

So who is your William?  If he is the one that married Mary JACQUES then it looks like his parents were William STYNES and Rosanna ROTHWELL.

Liverpool William's birth registration:

STYNES, WILLIAM
Mother's maiden surname: ROTHWELL
GRO Reference: 1848  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 449

...... his wedding certificate says his dad is james

William STINES
Gender:    Male
Marital Status:    Single
Marriage Date:    2 Oct 1843
Marriage Place:    Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father:    James STINES
Spouse:    Rosanna ROTHWELL
FHL Film Number:    1656508
Reference ID:    it 1, p 195, no 390

I assume that you mean that Margaret DOWLING was the wife of James and mother of William Snr.

How do you know that William Snr (born c1823) was born in Ireland?  Have you found him on the 1851 census?

Can you give some occupations please from the marriage or birth certs for the men in the family?

Debra 

[Dundee]

Answering my own question, I can see an image of the STINES/ROTHWELL marriage, and William is an iron moulder, his father James is a labourer.

Debra