Author Topic: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census  (Read 2138 times)

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Re: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Donna if Jane was illegitimate then Main could be her fathers surname which she went by so you may not find a connection on record but through  DNA I feel her mum was possibly Christian with the fact she named her daughter after her and that could explain why her son put Sutherland as her MS I am guessing he was young she died but he knew his grandmother Sutherland

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Re: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 22:52 GMT (UK) »
I can't believe i  didn't think of that.  See sometimes you need  to throw it out there to get new perspectives!! I have had my DNA done- both Mt-DNA and autosomal - so I think I should look through the matches for Sutherland for the maternal line!  Thank you
Lanarkshire: Dow, Dickson, Duncan, Buchanan,  Maclachlan, Wallace, Mitchel, Freckleton, Dollar, Whitten(on),Liverance, Murray, Gibson, Scoular, Telfer, Fisher,Slimman
Bo'ness: Henderson, Wallace, Foot(e)
Irvine: Petrie, Millar, Jaffrey, Allen,Boyd,
Edinburgh: Huldberg, Smith, Main, primrose
Roxburgh: Main, Smith, Sutherland
Wales: Islay, Wilkes, Morris, Ponter
England: Murray ( Windsor), Ponter ( Bath),
Ireland: Whitten, Irvine, Miller, McWilliams,Tremble,Greenaway, Stevenson,Wilson

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Re: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 23:23 GMT (UK) »
As I said there's a good chance an illegitimate birth would be recorded in the unindexed kirk session minutes, which can be searched fairly quickly, though you may need a professional researcher to do this for you. At this time it was common in my experience for the kirk session of a parish to quiz mothers of illegitimate children. Normally you will get a father identified eg name and occupation. So do follow this up.

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Re: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 01:14 GMT (UK) »
After the death of Jane MAIN, 1853, what marriage do you have for John SMITH.....when, where and name of bride please?

Census 1841 at Roxburgh Street Eastside
SUTHERLAND Agness  45yrs   independent   b. Roxburgh
SULHAM Christian       40yrs   independent   b. Roxburgh
SULHAM Robert          20yrs   slater app.      b. Roxburgh
DAVIDSON Robert       45yrs  skiner ap.       b. Kelso
SUTHERLAND John     15yrs   slater app.      b. Roxburgh
MAIN Jane                 20yrs   dress  m         b. Roxburgh
(a closer look at the image gives better transcription, as you have given)

Census 1841  at Roxburgh Street Eastside
MARIE John                56yrs                labourer         b. Roxburgh
MARIE Margaret          55yrs                                    b. Scotland 
MAIN Janet                 20yrs                                     b. Roxhurgh
MAIN Robert               20yrs                plaster app.    b. Roxburgh
YOUNG Madelina         40yrs                seamstress     b. Scotland
YOUNG Madelina         20yrs                                     b. England
BRODIE Mary              17yrs                                     b. Scotland
(would a closer look at the image show MARIE to be MAIN?

Census 1851 at 8 Dunbar Street (Edinburgh?)
SMITH John       27yrs    tailor (journeyman)   b. Kelso
SMITH Jane        31yrs                                   b. Kelso
SMITH William    6yrs                                     b. England
SMITH Robert S  5yrs                                     b. England
SMITH John        3yrs                                     b. England
SMITH Christina  1yrs                                     b. Edinburgh
SMITH Janet       2/12                                     b. Edinburgh


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Re: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 01:37 GMT (UK) »
On the 1841 census it reads Robert "Do' under Christian Sutherland which i believe means " same last name as above" So Robert Sutherland.After Jane died in 1853 her son William died in 1857 age 14. Robert Smith her son married Elizabeth McCallum in 1871 and died 1874. Son John Smith married in Canada and died in Canada.  Christina , my ggg grandmother married James Duncan, and I know nothing about Janet.  Jane's husband John Smith married Jane Primrose in Edinburgh , died 1875. living at 2 Advovate's Close.

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Lanarkshire: Dow, Dickson, Duncan, Buchanan,  Maclachlan, Wallace, Mitchel, Freckleton, Dollar, Whitten(on),Liverance, Murray, Gibson, Scoular, Telfer, Fisher,Slimman
Bo'ness: Henderson, Wallace, Foot(e)
Irvine: Petrie, Millar, Jaffrey, Allen,Boyd,
Edinburgh: Huldberg, Smith, Main, primrose
Roxburgh: Main, Smith, Sutherland
Wales: Islay, Wilkes, Morris, Ponter
England: Murray ( Windsor), Ponter ( Bath),
Ireland: Whitten, Irvine, Miller, McWilliams,Tremble,Greenaway, Stevenson,Wilson

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Re: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 02:13 GMT (UK) »


Is it the 1873 marriage for John SMITH and Jane PRIMROSE....years after the death of mother Jane?

Who raised the children of Jane and John SMITH?

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Re: Jane Main, living with the Sutherland family 1841 census
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 November 18 02:41 GMT (UK) »
I don’t know.  I saw that The new wife  was also from Kelso so he may have gone back home. Or to England. He may have hired somebody.  They had money.

 
Lanarkshire: Dow, Dickson, Duncan, Buchanan,  Maclachlan, Wallace, Mitchel, Freckleton, Dollar, Whitten(on),Liverance, Murray, Gibson, Scoular, Telfer, Fisher,Slimman
Bo'ness: Henderson, Wallace, Foot(e)
Irvine: Petrie, Millar, Jaffrey, Allen,Boyd,
Edinburgh: Huldberg, Smith, Main, primrose
Roxburgh: Main, Smith, Sutherland
Wales: Islay, Wilkes, Morris, Ponter
England: Murray ( Windsor), Ponter ( Bath),
Ireland: Whitten, Irvine, Miller, McWilliams,Tremble,Greenaway, Stevenson,Wilson