Looking for info on Joshua William Penn of Straffordshire England

[maddys52]

If he was 71 when he married Mary Ormeda Haynes -then he managed to father 5 children in a very short time if he died 1889

This is the 1882 marriage info:
Certainly Joshua (widower) was aged 70 and his bride (also a widow) aged 30
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y39P-74K?i=141&cc=1784216

It also clearly states Joshua's parents were Samuel and Lucy from Staffordshire (as Starsver101 said  )

[maddys52]

Children of Samuel PENN: (all records at All Saints, Sedgley)

with wife Sarah:
Martha  bap 8 May 1803  (bu 5 Feb 1804)

with wife Lucy:
Sarah  bap 2 Jun 1805
Thomas bap 29 Mar 1807  (bu 12 Apr 1808)
Martha  bap 12 Feb 1809
[James bu 1 Nov 1810] - possible
Joshua  bap 8 Sep 1811
[Mary  bu 7 Jun 1818, aged 17 months]  - possible

[maddys52]

Possible baptism for Samuel:

19 Aug 1781 at St Leonard, Bilston. Parents - John PENN and Ann.
(on FreeReg)

[maddys52]

This looks like Samuel's death aged 80 in the Dec qtr 1859 Dudley (6c/38).

And possible death for Lucy aged 82 in the March qtr 1860 Dudley (6c/47).

[suzard]

Are you certain of your facts?

There is a baptism of Joshua Penn (no middle name of William) 8 Sept 1811 Sedgley Stafford parents Samuel & Lucy

then there is a baptism of Joshua WILLIAM Penn 1812 Coventry Warwickshire

You have Joshua on 1880 New Jersey -does he have the middle name William and what age is he??

If he was 71 when he married Mary Ormeda Haynes -then he managed to father 5 children in a very short time if he died 1889

Suz

My point is that on all of the records which have been posted noone has mentioned Joshua having the middle name of William.  The son of Samuel and Lucy was baptised 8 Sept 1811 Sedgley Staffordshire as plain Joshua Penn . Joshua William Penn was baptised 1812 in Coventry Warwickshire.

So where did you find the middle name William recorded???

Suz

[trish1120]

Joshua may be in Manchester, Lancashire in 1841 Census;
Joshua Pen, 25 (1816) Shoemaker, NOT born in County

[Starsver101]

The middle name William was told to me by my uncle marshall. Though im now thinking he traced things back and got some facts mixed up. I would like to thank you for helping me.  Growing up native american (first nations) we didnt hear or know much about where the penns came from or how they lived. We only knew we were descendents of the penn family but we learned mainly where our Nadjwon family originated. So i thank you dearly.