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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 23 December 18 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank for all that information it will take a while to sort out. 
The only connection I can find for the Smith-Redpath is this Marriage
2959/1885 SMITH Thomas-REDPATH Jessie at Newtown

All the best for Christmas and a great New Year

Marriage, based on death notice provided:

2259/1872 REDPATH John to ANDREW Jessie GRAFTON

Children, missing James who is in South Africa with brother Adam:

1874 John William - married 1905 CASTLEY Sarah H - died 1948. Death and funeral notices, 2nd and 6th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18063359
At Woronora Cemetery: Old Section - Family Rose Garden - 21A 0011 -  John William Redpath 7-3-1948, Sarah Hannah Redpath 2-9-1966, Marjorie Rachael Redpath 23-8-1982, Doris Janet Redpath 31-5-1989

1876 Gertrude Alice died 1877

1878 Adam George - death of Adamís wife, Bernice, in S.Africa, first column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article237844736

1882 Ann Jane likely died as Jane Ann Redpath in 1942, as death notice mentions brother John. Death and funeral notices, 2nd and 6th columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17814700
At Woronora Cemetery: Jane Ann Redpath 31-7-1942 Ashes buried in grounds.

1904 Alma M died 1909

Death of John: 4768/1882 REDPATH John parents JOHN and JANE WATERLOO
His funeral notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13515859

As you have noted, likely the second marriage and there are two children, twins:

2959/1885 SMITH Thomas to REDPATH Jessie at Newtown

9165/1886 SMITH Jessie parents Thomas S and Jessie NEWTOWN
9166/1886 SMITH Sydney Thomas S and Jessie NEWTOWN died 1886

Funeral noticeís of Jessie Snrís father, Adam, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13493029
His death: 6455/1881 ANDREWS Adam AGE 63 YEARS DIED GLADESVILLE RYDE

Funeral notices for Ann and In Memoriam for Adam and Ann Andrew, mention Jessie Smith: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13735747 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article128769385
Her death: 5423/1889 ANDREW Ann parents HUGH D ELIZABETH REDFERN

Jessieís folks Adam and Ann

Children:

1849 Jessie

1853 James died 1857

1861 Adam - married 1885 Frances McNamara - died 1931 Funeral notices: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16806664

1865 William - I think this is his marriage 1888 VICKERY Harriett. They had a daughter Ann D who married Frederick DIBDEN. Ann died in SA and she is recorded as Ann Douglas Dibden. Her names fit with that of Williamís mother. Canít find death but if this Harriett is his wife, then he died between 1921 and 1949.
1949   749/54 ANDREW Harriett William ANDREW [DH] Norwood Harriettís death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18143537

? Mary - married 1879 Samuel Strange - died 1921 Funeral notices: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16883142

? Ann - married 1869 George Lintern - died 1921 Funeral notices: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15948421

Adam, Ann and daughterís Elizabeth and Mary, arrival, 13 November 1848: http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?series=NRS5316&item=4_4786&ship=General%20Hewitt

Adam misbehaving on Xmas day, 4th column.  ;D: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article706500

Iím thinking this is their marriage and birth of Elizabeth, on ScotlandsPeople. However, if so then the children are recorded incorrectly, agewise, on the manifest:

ANDREW ADAM to ANN DOUGLAS/FR670 (FR670) 20-11-1842 615/ 30 214 Stevenston

ANDREW ELIZABETH parents ADAM ANDREW/ANN DOUGLAS FR579 (FR579) F 21-7-1844 615/ 30 102 Stevenston

Possible birth for Adam: ANDREW ADAM parents JAMES ANDREW/ANN MARTIN 13-9-1818 590/10 298 Dundonald


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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 23 December 18 06:07 GMT (UK) »
Interesting to see that Jessie Andrew/Redpath/Smith is on the headstone as Redpath.

Waverley Cemetery headstone inscriptions:
General 4 Select Row 4 Grave 94,95
ANDREW, Adam 20 Aug 1881 63 Native of Ayrshire, Scotland
ANDREW, Ann 02 May 1889 Our mother. Wife of above. In her 67th year
REDPATH, Jessie 24 Apr 1917 67 Dau of abo

General 4 Select Row 4 Grave 84,85
LINTERN George 24 Apr 1891 53
LINTERN Ann, 12 Jul 1921 75 His wife
LINTERN Lavinia Leah
LINTERN Charles Eugene Children of above

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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 23 December 18 06:20 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry NSW Police Gazette 24 Dec 1895
Warrant for Samuel WOODFORD, 44 years, carpenter, travelling about the country with hores and cart and tools....wife desertion....claimant Julia WOODFORD, Redfern

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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 23 December 18 06:36 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry NSW Police Gazette 24 Dec 1895
Warrant for Samuel WOODFORD, 44 years, carpenter, travelling about the country with hores and cart and tools....wife desertion....claimant Julia WOODFORD, Redfern

Excellent. So, he could be hiding anywhere other than NSW.  :-\

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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 23 December 18 06:41 GMT (UK) »
1878 Edith - married 5550/1894 ROBERTSHAW Widdop - died 1939 - funeral notice: ROBERTSHAW Edith Funeral notice 4-8-1939 Funeral late of Newcastle Newcastle Herald 4-8-1939   

Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle:

Robertshaw Edith 4-8-1939 ANGLICAN No. 2, 151, ANGLICAN No. 2-151-43
No one else on headstone: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n6n/

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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 23 December 18 07:36 GMT (UK) »
I have received 42414/1928 for Florence Julia WOODFORD
This registration has been made under the authority of the Legitimation Act 1902

Florence Julia born 17 Nov 1907
Born Newcastle NSW

Father Leonard WOODFORD age 24 born Newtown Sydney NSW
Mother Jessie SMITH age 21 born Newtown Sydney NSW

Marriage 12 Nov 1912 Woollahra Sydney NSW

Informant Leonard WOODFORD, Father, 82 Morehead St Redfern, Sydney
Registered 10 Dec 1928 Sydney NSW

I would like some help tracing Leonard and Jessie's families

All their children:

Florence Julia married 1926 James Ryan died 1988

Birth also as 1928 Leonard Alfred married 1934 Christina M King died 1963

Ivy died 1912 - I see no birth

1913 Irene May married 1933 Aubrey Lester McCrea died 1987

1914 Olga Rita married 1930 James Brown died 1941
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17763679
Funeral notices, 5th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17764751
At Eastern Suburbs Cemetery: Olga Rita Brown 30-8-1941 Burial ADDD - Anglican FM DDD, Position 1002

1916 Frederick William married 1940 Violet Mary Elizabeth Kellher died 1979
WOODFORD Frederick William Death notice 29-11-1979 Death late of Canley Vale Sydney Morning Herald 1-12-1979   

1918 Jessie Edith married 1936 Henry James Selway

...John Thomas married 1940 Alice Irene Ceissman died 1982

...Leslie Francis married 1947 Gloria Margaret Mitchell and 1955 Sylvia Merle Hall died 1983
Death notice, scroll to page 19 or type 15 in little white box, last column. Itís not very clear, but think it says wife is Jane: https://news.google.com.au/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19830822&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

...Sidney died 1951 appears not to have married. Funeral notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18244240

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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #33 on: Monday 24 December 18 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Link re: Permanas in UK 1841: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=805420.msg6639835#msg6639835

Related to reply #22:

Looks like Susan married twice in NSW and died here:

3168/1879 DAY Caleb to PHILPOTT Susan Elizabeth GOULBURN

2836/1884 COLEMAN George G to Day Susan E NEWTOWN

20702/1945 COLEMAN Susan Elizabeth 89 YRS JANE MARGARET ROCKDALE

Death and funeral notices, 1st and 3rd columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27923650

Buried with husband George. Woronora Cemetery Methodist Monumental - Section U 0066
Susan E Coleman 31-7-1945 and George E Coleman 11-5-1929.

Marriage notice 1879 for Susan Elizabeth Philpott:

To Caleb Day 12 August, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13455547

Death in VIC of Caleb has his first, deceased wife listed:

10557 1881 DAY Caleb parents Saml and Eliza (Glover) Place of death: G'LONG Aged 40 Spouse's family name: VALE Serena

A child born in VIC:

23644 1881 DAY Samuel Parmenas Stephen parents Caleb and Elizabeth (Philpott) GEEL

His marriage NSW: 2517/1909 DAY Samuel P S to DENNETT Elizabeth M A ST PETERS

His death: 52684/1973 DAY Samuel Parmenus S parents CALEB and SUSAN ELIZABETH KOGARAH

DAY Samuel Parmenus Stephen Death notice 28-5-1973 Death late of Hurstville Sydney Morning Herald 30-5-1973   

Wifeís death: 3353/1941 DAY Elizabeth Mary Ann parents GEORGE HENRY and CHRISTIANA KOGARAH

Elizabethís death and funeral notices, 1st and 2nd columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17726547 - http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17733697

Child: 15024/1909 DAY Frederick S parents SAMUEL P S and ELIZABETH M A HURSTVILLE

Frederickís marriage:16615/1943 DAY Frederick Stephen to KNIGHT Doris Amelia HURSTVILLE

Frederickís death: 2869/1984 DAY Frederick Stephen parentís SAMUEL STEPHEN and ELIZABETH

DAY Frederick Stephen Death notice 25-1-1984 Death late of Penshurst Sydney Morning Herald 28-1-1984

DAY Doris Amelia Death notice 20-20-2006 Death 83 late of Murrurundi, formerly of Penshurst Sydney Morning Herald 24-11-2006   

Woronora Cemetery Ashes Old Section - Family Rose Garden 26 - 0014:
Samuel Parmenus Day 28-5-1973
Elizabeth Mary Ann Day 5-3-1941
Frederick Stephen Day 25-1-1984
Doris Amelia Day 26-2-2007

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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #34 on: Monday 24 December 18 03:18 GMT (UK) »
Buried with husband George. Woronora Cemetery Methodist Monumental - Section U 0066
Susan E Coleman 31-7-1945 and George E Coleman 11-5-1929.



Birth: 8517/1885 COLEMAN Eva J parents  GEORGE E and SUSAN E NEWTOWN
Death: 9830/1919 COLEMAN Eve J parents GEORGE E and SUSAN E KOGARAH
Burial with parents: Eva Jane Coleman 1-6-1919 Burial Methodist Monumental - Section U - 0067

Birth: 9361/1887 COLEMAN Ada parents GEORGE and SUSAN E NEWTOWN
Marriage: 17955/1915 THOROUGHGOOD Roy C to COLEMAN Ada KOGARAH
Death: 21593/1957 THOROUGHGOOD Ada parents GEORGE EBENEZER and SUSAN PETERSHAM
Ashes with parents: Ada Thoroughgood 27-7-1957 Ashes Methodist Monumental - Section U - 0066
Death and funeral notices first page, 3rd and 7th columns: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19570829&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Birth: 25675/1890 COLEMAN William F parents GEORGE E and SUSAN E NEWTOWN
Death: 8463/1949 COLEMAN William Frederick parents GEORGE EBENEZER and SUSAN HURSTVILLE
Woronora: William Frederick Coleman 14-4-1949 Ashes Buried In Grounds

Son Robert, but canít find his birth/death:

8227/1902 COLEMAN Robert P to PITTY Alice S SYDNEY

COLEMAN Robert Parmenas Death notice 6-12-1961 Death at St George Hospital, late of Bexley Sydney Morning Herald 9-12-1961

His wifeís death: 28157/1945 COLEMAN Alice Sophia parents WALTER JOHN and MARTHA ROCKDALE
Her death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17965626

Woronora Old Section - Family Rose Garden 66 - 0031 Ashes
Robert Parmenas Coleman 6-12-1961
Alice Sophia Coleman 29-12-1945


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Re: Birth of Florence J Woodford NSW
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Frank Woodford b 1893 Father Samuel Mother Julia

Certified Extract of Marriage Certificate relating to
2433 WOODFORD F in WW1 Service Record AIF
Groom
WOODFORD FRANK
Address CLAPHAM
Bachelor
Age 25
Father SAMUEL WOODFORD (deceased)
Carpenter
Bride
GOODALL WINIFRED
Address 20 WELDALE STREET
Spinster Age 22
Father ALFRED GOODALL
SOLDIER: SERGEANT PENSIONER

Registration District GREYFRIARS READING
Marriage Solemnized The Parish Church Greyfriars according to the rites and ceremonies of the Established Church after BANNS

Married by George A Purser
Date of Marriage 14 July 1919
Registrar's Reference 417

Returned to Australia 1920 with wife