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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #27 on: Monday 03 December 18 16:35 GMT (UK) »
The appearance of Jarvis/Jervis in connection with Desmond (this name has passed down through hearsay as well as on his marriage certificate) is quite a strong connection to the Salter line I think. They are both very unusal names...The fact that there is a Salter family with an Ethel AND a Jarvis is surely indicitive I have the right family...I know I still need to prove it...but
AND Charles Jarvis Clerson Salter married in Fulham too in 1908.

I think you are maybe seeing an old reference in an old (linked) post about Ethel being born in 1895. A different Ethel...I think I found a tentative link to this Ethel many years ago...can you show me where you have got that from please as I will need to follow it up?

The problem is that I cannot find Ethel anywhere in 1911 or 1901? I wonder if she went under Lilian...

Thanks so much for all your help!

Alison

Google your old posts, that is what I did.

Right - OK. I will. Sorry to have bothered or annoyed you... I used to be a dab hand at this. Please forgive me, I have had a break for over ten years plus I am a single mum with a 9 month old crawling about the place. I may miss things or make mistakes.
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Worcestershire/Staffordshire: Oldbury, West Bromwich, Halesowen, White Heath
Lancashire: Wigan, Aspull,
Nottinghamshire: Worksop
erbyshire:alfreton, ironville, codnor

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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #28 on: Monday 03 December 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Captain Sir Thomas Randolph Houstoun-Boswall 5th Baronet married Edith Mary Salter (daughter of Jarvis Salter and Fanny Smith) 1912 in Wandsworth.

freebdm Marriages Mar 1912   
Salter    Edith M    Houstoun-Boswall    Wandsworth    1d   740

was she married before (??)
Urquhart    Edith M    Houstoun Boswall    Wandsworth    1d   740

http://www.houstoun.org.uk/Gene/tree/2/50457.htm

Pretty surprising

Nice photograph
http://www.houstoun.org.uk/Gene/tree/media/50635_1_lady_r_houstoun-boswall_2.jpg

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Givens/Normand (Dysart)
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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #29 on: Monday 03 December 18 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Edith Mary Salter married Robert Lish Urquhart, Scarborough, Sep qtr 1899.

12 September 1899 at Scarborough Register Office,
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #30 on: Monday 03 December 18 17:24 GMT (UK) »

Edith Mary Salter married Robert Lish Urquhart, Scarborough, Sep qtr 1899.

...and Robert sued her for divorce in 1911 (adultery), citing Thomas Randolph Houston Boswall as co-respondent.

The only child of the marriage was Robert Charles Duff Urquhart, born 26 June 1900.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #31 on: Monday 03 December 18 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Details from the 12 September 1899 marriage at Scarborough Register Office:

Robert Lish Urquhart was 47, a bachelor, gentleman.  Father: James Warden Urquhart (decd), banker.

Edith Mary Salter was 20, a spinster.  Father: Jarvis Salter, gentleman.

Both "resident" at the Hydro, Scarborough, at the time of the marriage.

Witnesses: Robert J Pepper; William Foord.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #32 on: Monday 03 December 18 17:47 GMT (UK) »
I think he may have changed his name quite soon after 1947 to avoid the courts...

He may have been at the Old Bailey in 1949. Got eighteen months.

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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #33 on: Monday 03 December 18 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Captain Sir Thomas Randolph Houstoun-Boswall 5th Baronet married Edith Mary Salter (daughter of Jarvis Salter and Fanny Smith) 1912 in Wandsworth.

freebdm Marriages Mar 1912   
Salter    Edith M    Houstoun-Boswall    Wandsworth    1d   740

was she married before (??)
Urquhart    Edith M    Houstoun Boswall    Wandsworth    1d   740

http://www.houstoun.org.uk/Gene/tree/2/50457.htm

Pretty surprising

Nice photograph
http://www.houstoun.org.uk/Gene/tree/media/50635_1_lady_r_houstoun-boswall_2.jpg

Wow! Wasn't expecting that. Well, if Edith is marrying a baronet that certainly don't sound like they're 'my lot'!! Could the sister have had an illegitemate child in London and be a boarder?? Is this what you were thinking avm?? Great digging!
Surname interests:
Salter, Fulford, Woodcock, Finney, Tissington, Driscoll, Shea, Maxfield, Collier, Hughes, Williams, Petty, Pearson, Prescott, Baldwin,

Area interests:
West Riding Yorkshire: Rotherham, Hemsworth, Darfield, Sheffield
Worcestershire/Staffordshire: Oldbury, West Bromwich, Halesowen, White Heath
Lancashire: Wigan, Aspull,
Nottinghamshire: Worksop
erbyshire:alfreton, ironville, codnor

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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #34 on: Monday 03 December 18 20:12 GMT (UK) »
I think he may have changed his name quite soon after 1947 to avoid the courts...

He may have been at the Old Bailey in 1949. Got eighteen months.

Do you mean you have found some possible reference to this Jon??
Surname interests:
Salter, Fulford, Woodcock, Finney, Tissington, Driscoll, Shea, Maxfield, Collier, Hughes, Williams, Petty, Pearson, Prescott, Baldwin,

Area interests:
West Riding Yorkshire: Rotherham, Hemsworth, Darfield, Sheffield
Worcestershire/Staffordshire: Oldbury, West Bromwich, Halesowen, White Heath
Lancashire: Wigan, Aspull,
Nottinghamshire: Worksop
erbyshire:alfreton, ironville, codnor

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Re: Changing name by deed poll
« Reply #35 on: Monday 03 December 18 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Then there are also the golf patents between 1899 and the divorce

ROBERT LISH URQUHART AND EDITH MARY URQUHART, OF DUNBAR, SCOTLAND

Maybe we should check the Scottish census for 1901 to see if Edith Salter was visiting?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)