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Ralph Allen
« on: Sunday 02 December 18 10:29 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to trace Ralph Allen and wondered if anyone else has researched him.
He was the Father of Mary Jane Allen who married Elijah Ludford Lockwood in Leicestershire (Barrow upon Soar) in 1838.
On the Marriage certificate of Mary and Elijah Ralph is described as being a River Pilot who lived in Talbot Lane.
Mary Jane seems to have been born around 1816 (probably but not definitely in Leicestershire). I'm guessing Ralph married 1800 to 1815 and must have been born around 1765 to 1780.

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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 December 18 12:47 GMT (UK) »
In 1841 she shows as Jane Lockwood age 30 bn Leicestershire with possible daughter Mary age 2 living in same house (separate household) as Elijah's father Henson
HO107 /592 bk8 f27 p12

Possible birth reg of young Mary shows mmn Clark  :-\
LOCKWOOD, MARY       mmn CLARK     
1838  Sept Quarter in BARROW UPON SOAR  Volume 15  Page 25   

Ignore as another Mary -parents William & Elizabeth

I am trying to trace Ralph Allen and wondered if anyone else has researched him.
He was the Father of Mary Jane Allen who married Elijah Ludford Lockwood in Leicestershire (Barrow upon Soar) in 1838.
On the Marriage certificate of Mary and Elijah Ralph is described as being a River Pilot who lived in Talbot Lane.


Marriages do not normally give the abode of anyone other than the bride & groom  :-\
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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 December 18 13:09 GMT (UK) »
On the marriage certificate both Elijah and Mary Jane's address is given as 'Talbot Lane' - Ralph Allen simply described as 'Pilot'.

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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 December 18 14:01 GMT (UK) »
In 1851 Elijah (transcribed as Elizah) Lockwood and Mary Jane (listed as Jane) are in Birmingham.  She is shown as bc.1808 'At Sea'.

Mary Jane Lockwood remarried Mar.qtr.1861 to a Samuel George - in 1861 they are in Birmingham with her grand-daughter 2 born in Aldershot.   Once again, Mary Jane's birth is shown as ca.1808 'At Sea'.

So how do we identify her father Ralph Allen when she herself is born at sea?

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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 December 18 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Yes a problem there!
I jjust found the same thing. Mary Elizabeth married 1858 in Aldershot, Father Elijah, dead.
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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 December 18 18:54 GMT (UK) »
On the marriage certificate both Elijah and Mary Jane's address is given as 'Talbot Lane' - Ralph Allen simply described as 'Pilot'.

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Who were the witnesses
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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 December 18 19:22 GMT (UK) »
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He was the Father of Mary Jane Allen who married Elijah Ludford Lockwood in Leicestershire (Barrow upon Soar) in 1838.

Not Barrow upon Soar. They were married at St Mary's in Leicester.

The 1841 census lists an Allen family at Wrights Yard in Talbot Lane: Thomas Allen 50, woolcomber, Mary Allen 55 and John Allen, 20, woolcomber. All born out of county. Relatives perhaps?
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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 December 18 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Allen born c.1788 Boughton Northamptonshire in further census Wife Mary born Bedworth Warwickshire.

Still in Talbot lane in 1851.
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Re: Ralph Allen
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 December 18 20:03 GMT (UK) »
The 1838 marriage witnesses were Francis William Hollyoake and Mary Hollyoake. Mary Jane Allen was a witness to the marriage of Francis William Hollyoake and Mary Attkins in 1837.
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