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Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« on: Monday 03 December 18 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
I am trying to find a death of my ancestor -
Israel Munt who was married to Phoebe Munt ( ne Hawtrey )

They were living in Tottenham in 1861 census and he was aged 55

Phoebe was a widow in the 1871 census in Tottenham

The only record I can find is Israel Munt , died 1857 , aged 75 , making him too old

I would be very greatfull for any information

Thank you 

Simon

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 December 18 22:24 GMT (UK) »
How old was he on the 1851 and 1841 censuses?

He cannot have died in 1857 if he is alive in 1861, so that must be someone else, not a wrong transcription.

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 December 18 22:26 GMT (UK) »
45 in 1851 (transcribed as Sarah Hunt)

35 in 1841 (transcribed as Mael Mint)

The Mint made me smile never mind the Sarah.

Have you got a death for his widow?  Wondering if there was a gravestone for her it might have some details for Israel on it.

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 December 18 22:59 GMT (UK) »
The 1857 death was in Herts and would probably be the 1851 entry for Israel Munt b 1783 Weston Herts and living in Herts. 

There is a death in Edmonton RD 1878 for Phoebe aged 80.  She was 57 in 1861 and 70 in 1871   

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Phoebe Munt died in 1878 in Tottenham , she was a widow

Also a widow in the 1871 census

I have her death certificate but cannot upload it on here as it says file size is too big ??

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 12:40 GMT (UK) »
No need to upload.  Itís on freebmd.  Israelís death reg is still a mystery
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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Ok thanks

Maybe Israelís death was not registered/ recorded ?

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 13:19 GMT (UK) »
May be a red herring on Familysearch.Org?

Name   ? Munt
Event Type Burial
Burial Date 25 Nov 1861
Burial Place Hackney, Middlesex

Cant find a FreeBMD or GRO Ref for this to confirm name/sex.
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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 13:24 GMT (UK) »
I have her death certificate but cannot upload it on here as it says file size is too big ??

See it here
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic17463.html#p64089