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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jon for sending the link from WDYTYA forum

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 14:18 GMT (UK) »
25 November 1861 burial is of "St Bn" Munt of 6 Triangle Place.

I'm assuming that "St Bn" means stillborn  :'(

Added:

There is another St Bn Munt burial - 5 December 1863 - address this time is Northampton Street.

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Looking at the Death Certificate, Daughter was present at death giving The Pound Alms Houses, Tottenham, again.

'Munt of Tottenham' search took me to this (unconfirmed, so unsure of accuracy) ...

Burial, 3 Aug 1832, All Hallows Church, Tottenham, Edmonton Hundred, Middlesex, England, Burial of Thomas Munt. Transcript. Thomas Munt of Tottenham ...

http://whozat.x10.mx/tree/ppl/4/3/bec608d899a16d07234.html

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"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 15:43 GMT (UK) »
Thank you

Still trying to find Israelís death ......a mystery

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello

With a first name like Israel, given to Jacob (Israel might be used as an alias name) and the connection with Edmonton (unchecked) and Tottenham, I'm wondering if it was a Jewish burial?

Usually, in England after 1837 you couldn't bury, without a confirmation of Registration of Death slip from the Registrar. My 4 x Gt Grandfather has one issued to the Quakers, but also his Death was Registered too.

I am wondering if Israel was Jewish and owing to some religious customs if the death occurred out of hours or at a weekend, I suspect there was also some process back then of reporting it to a Registrar or other Authority, like a Coroner, Police Constable, or Council.

Although, if a Death goes to a Coroner Investigation / Inquest, the Coroner registers the Death.

Or he died out of the country (outside of the jurisdiction of England & Wales), or on a vessel.

It does seem the Synagogues of Edmonton and Tottenham are now affiliated.
https://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/London/edmonton_tottenham/index.htm
(opens in Chrome)

Perhaps his Death report and the signing off for Burial is amongst Jewish or other records?

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"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark
Thatís a thought
I might try and find out if Israel had a Jewish burial
Thank you
Simon

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 December 18 23:34 GMT (UK) »
General Information

Jewish Registers ...
https://www.genguide.co.uk/source/jewish-registers-of-birth-marriage-and-deathburial/153/


Family Search General Information -  England, Jewish Records
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/England_Jewish_Records


Congregations may still hold Registers.

If attending Jewish meetings a plaque might be on the Wall at their place of Worship.

If death occurred in England and Wales after 1837 the death should be registered with the Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths.

Mark
"George HOOD of Selby" Before 1812?

Born about 1785 (Yorkshire per 1841 Census)

Married Sarah RUSSELL at Selby 1815 newspaper - "both of that place".

Buried in the Quaker Burial Ground at Selby as "Not in Membership" in 1845, aged 60 years.

George HOOD of Selby was refused Membership of the Quakers in 1836.

Elected Overseer of the Poor of Selby in 1838.

Had both known (Selby) and unknown (some not stated 1846) property interests.

Possible (but unknown) links to COOK and/or PEARSON names.

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Re: Brick wall , Israel Munt death after 1861 , help please
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 December 18 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark
Thanks for the reply

Kind regards
Simon