Roman Catholic/Latin baptism query

[Nick B]

I have a record of a Roman Catholic baptism from 1806, written in Latin that states 'Suppletoe ceremonie'. Does anyone have an idea what this might mean?

From records of Our Blessed Lady & St Alphonsus, Blackmore Park, Worcester
August 1806 births & baptism
Benjaminus filius N (?) Lane & Teresa Gallet
Suppletoe ceremonie
patrini Joan. Gallet, Maria Harris

From this, it's likely that Benjamin was illegitimate. The mother's family were Roman Catholic, and it's likely that the patrini (sponsors) were the mother's brother and married sister.

I'm actually trying to find some evidence of Teresa Gallet's parents, and of the mysterious Mr Lane - I have details of Benjamin's marriage and family.

Thanks,

Nick

[josey]

Can you post a snippet so we can look at Mr Lane's initial - with a few surrounding records to get a feel for the writing?

I can see no Gallets in 1841 in Worcestershire but by 1851 there are quite a few in Hanley Castle nearby.

But there is this baptism which is probably not Catholic
First name   James
Last name   Gallat
Baptism date   18 Oct 1772
Hanley Castle, Worcestershire
Country   England
Father's name   James Gallat
Mother's name   Constance

ADDED:
ALso found this marriage
Marriages Jun 1844 
BENNETT    Jane        Upton on Sevn    18   633    
Church    Sarah        Upton on Severn    18   633   
Cull    George        Upton on Severn    18   633    
Gallett    Teresa        Upton on Sev    18   633   
Gallett    Theresa        Upton on Sev    18   633   
HUNT    George        Upton on Severn    18   633    
LIPPYATT    James        Upton on Severn    18   633   
But no idea if Upton is near Hanley Castle.
An added note on the ancestry entry states that she married James Lippyatt/Lippett & this woman is 29  in the 1851 census, so born ca 1821 & not Benjamin's mother. In 1861 she is 37 born Hanley Castle. Another record shows her father to be George.

[stanmapstone]

Supplementary Ceremony?
When the supplementary ceremonies are to be performed in the case of a child which has already been baptized, http://anglicanhistory.org/liturgy/old_catholic_ritual/baptism.html

Stan

[heywood]

Many Catholic Baptisms show mother with her maiden name as you have written it.
Benjamin would therefore be Benjamin Lane. Is that who you are looking for?
Do you have him as Benjamin Gallet?

[mazi]

Can you post a snippet so we can look at Mr Lane's initial - with a few surrounding records to get a feel for the writing?

I can see no Gallets in 1841 in Worcestershire but by 1851 there are quite a few in Hanley Castle nearby.

But there is this baptism which is probably not Catholic
First name   James
Last name   Gallat
Baptism date   18 Oct 1772
Hanley Castle, Worcestershire
Country   England
Father's name   James Gallat
Mother's name   Constance

ADDED:
ALso found this marriage
Marriages Jun 1844 
BENNETT    Jane        Upton on Sevn    18   633    
Church    Sarah        Upton on Severn    18   633   
Cull    George        Upton on Severn    18   633    
Gallett    Teresa        Upton on Sev    18   633   
Gallett    Theresa        Upton on Sev    18   633   
HUNT    George        Upton on Severn    18   633    
LIPPYATT    James        Upton on Severn    18   633   
But no idea if Upton is near Hanley Castle.
An added note on the ancestry entry states that she married James Lippyatt/Lippett & this woman is 29  in the 1851 census, so born ca 1821 & not Benjamin's mother. In 1861 she is 37 born Hanley Castle. Another record shows her father to be George.

Hanley castle is in Upton on Severn registration district

[Nick B]

Hi Josey

James & Constance were RC and may have been Teresa's parents; James b. abt. 1772 was their son. Teresa/Theresa who married James Lyppatt/Lippet in 1844 was, as you say, much younger.

The Index To Death Duty Registers has a death for a Theresa Gallet in 1821,
county: Worcestershire, and she may not have married.

Hanley Castle is in Upton on Severn, Worcestershire.

Stan: this is helpful and may be the answer, especially as the register gives the month but not the day, whereas all or almost other entries give date of both birth and baptism.

Nick

[josey]

Many Catholic Baptisms show mother with her maiden name as you have written it.

Good point, perhaps OP can look through same record set for a marriage?

Hanley castle is in Upton on Severn registration district

Doh, I should have looked that up  . There obviously were Gallet[t]/Gallatt families around there at the beginning of 19th century.

[Bookbox]

I have a record of a Roman Catholic baptism from 1806, written in Latin that states 'Suppletoe ceremonie'. Does anyone have an idea what this might mean?

From records of Our Blessed Lady & St Alphonsus, Blackmore Park, Worcester
August 1806 births & baptism
Benjaminus filius N (?) Lane & Teresa Gallet
Suppletoe ceremonie
patrini Joan. Gallet, Maria Harris

The key words are suppletae ceremoniae, meaning ‘the rites (were) completed’. Is the first part of the baptism ceremony written at the very top of the extract as posted? The godparents seem to be the same.

I suspect it’s not N. Lane at all, but a blank space left before Lane, for a forename that wasn’t available at the time.

[heywood]

I was just going to ask about the part which is cut off at the top.
Are the details the same or is it just the mother’s name?