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Re: Martin family Sussex
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 05 December 18 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I'm afraid that I can't see a Martha Newland - Martin marriage on the Sussex Marriage Index.
But assuming that Martha was a widow, as stated in the marriage register, at the moment there is only one way I can see what might(!) have happened.
It would mean that Martha would have been widowed twice, not impossible of course, but more complicated. Sorry it's so long, it helped me make sense of it, it may give you something to consider. Hope you can see the links to FamilySearch, you need to be logged in as a free member.

It starts in Heyshott, near to the places previously mentioned
A baptism, 29 March 1778, Martha, daughter of John + Martha Carver
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY29-DHC?i=473

Marriage at Heyshott, 15 July 1798
Thomas Williams + Martha Carver (who marked)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY29-C2D?i=497

There is a baptism at West Dean, 12 January 1800, Mary Ann Williams, parents Thomas + Martha
Bishop's Transcript here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D179-BVZ?i=1064&cat=67529

On the next image of the West Dean BTs (im 1066), a burial of a Thomas Williams, 16 Feb 1800.
No further Thomas - Martha Williams baptisms in Sussex are indexed on FamilySearch, so could that be Martha's husband??

A marriage at Easebourne, 24 May 1802
William Martin
+
Martha Williams, widow (marked)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1L9-WQL?i=286&cat=144653

Seems to be no baptisms to that couple there, but back at Heyshott, there are two burials in 1804
PR image very poor
BT not great!
15 February 1804, Martha, daughter of William + Martha Martin
23 April 1804, William Martin
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1S9-1LC?i=482

What do we have for this William Martin?
Well possibly he is the chap baptized at Heyshott, 4 August 1782, parents William + Elisabeth Martin.
According to the index on FamilySearch those parents may have married the next day??
The older William Martin may have died in 1834, buried in Heyshott on 19 April, age 83.

So if that was the younger William's burial in 1804, it would leave a widowed Martha about who might have married Francis Edwin the following year.

A fly in the ointment might be a baptism of a Henry Martin in East Grinstead in 1807, the only other William/Martha Martin baptism in Sussex indexed on FamilySearch. Grinstead is further away though.

plus
Francis + Martha Edwin also had a Mary, baptized 31 July 1808, at East Dean.

On the other hand the baptism of Martha Carver in 1778 ties in with the death reg of Martha Edwin in 1848, age 70.

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Re: Martin family Sussex
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 05 December 18 08:59 GMT (UK) »
From the West Sussex Archives catalogue
Indemnity certificates issued by outside parishes for persons residing in Tillington
8 February 1785
Settlement certificate John Carver
married Martha Carver
children Martha Carver, 7y, Mary Carver, 3y, Elizabeth Carver, 1y
Ref: Par 197/32/1/1/2

See it here, issued by Petworth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68LQ-QJ5?i=918&cat=600991

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Re: Martin family Sussex
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 05 December 18 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for all your effort I will go through it and make some notes.  Not sure what ti make of DNA matches and that name Newland?  But will just leave that for now. What I did notice was that Francis and Martha’s youngest son (where I then descend) Francis Nicolas Edwin marries Harriet Alyward her parents are William and Ann Alyward née Wisdom and they have a  have a daughter Mary b abt1831 and some trees have her married to a James Martin. But not the same branch that the DNA match is to that I can see. 

Thank you again will go through what you’ve found.
Blessings
Deb