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Offline Karen McDonald

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Need help with signature on painting
« on: Saturday 08 December 18 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi everybody,

Normally I try and help other people in this section, but today I have a question of my own.  ;D

In 1985, my then husband and I bought a painting from a gallery in Rayleigh, Essex. There were a number of similar paintings from the same artist in the gallery, mainly masses of blue with old ships.  :) It's a matter of taste, but I really liked the painting.

It came with me into my second marriage, but we haven't seen it hanging for a few years - it's been up on top of a wardrobe for a long time.

Just recently I took it down and looked at it. For the first time, it occurred to me that I have no idea who painted it. So I googled what I thought I could see and came up with...zilch. OK, a photographer, and an artist who produces works which are very different from "my ships".

I have looked on the Internet and can't find a gallery on the main road through Rayleigh. OK, it was 33 years ago...  :o So I can't call them.  ???

Here is the signature:







What I see is Hohing. Which is a pretty unusual name. The name definitely ends in "g". After the "g", there is a little dot/flourish on the canvas - it is not another letter. I thought I'd better point that out, as the photos are not brilliant and it might look as though there is another letter after the "g".

From experience I know that Google & Co. can function differently in different countries, so maybe I'm not getting all the possibilities showing here.
 
Any ideas?  :)

I look forward to your replies & suggestions!

Best regards,
Karen


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Re: Need help with signature on painting
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 December 18 13:38 GMT (UK) »
I wondered if it was Haling, though that means an extra hook at the bottom of the 'l'. Not that it helped much.

However, I did discover a Rayleigh Art Group (https://rayleighart.wordpress.com/) - I wonder if anyone there might know of him/her?
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 December 18 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Could be Charles Holing?
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 December 18 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Possibly Holring

Add - or  the lr is an h as you suggest - Hah or Hoh or Halr or Holr  :-\
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Re: Need help with signature on painting
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 December 18 14:22 GMT (UK) »
@arthurk
Many thanks for that! I'll give them a try.  :)

@Treetotal
I've just googled him. His style is very different (not that that is conclusive  ???) but I have found a couple of photos of him and if they are fairly recent, I don't think he could be old enough.

@Gadget
I've just been googling the name, but can't find anything... :-[
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 December 18 14:33 GMT (UK) »


@Gadget
I've just been googling the name, but can't find anything... :-[

I've been doing a global search on the various genealogy sites. There are various people with similar surnames but mostly on ships lists!

It could be that it's not a famous artist. There are lots of minor ones that I know of that you'd not find on Google - not mentioning any names!

Is it worth contacting the various private art galleries in the area to check if anyone might know?
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 December 18 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Nearest are in Leigh. This looks promising:

http://www.estuarygallery.com/
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 December 18 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Nearest are in Leigh. This looks promising:

http://www.estuarygallery.com/

I've just written to Ian. Many thanks!  :)

I doubt if the artist became famous, but I find it a little weird that there is absolutely nothing about him/her on the Internet...
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 December 18 08:04 GMT (UK) »
However, I did discover a Rayleigh Art Group (https://rayleighart.wordpress.com/) - I wonder if anyone there might know of him/her?

I wrote to RAG yesterday and a very helpful man named Colin wrote back almost immediately. He told me that the people who used to own the gallery in Rayleigh now have a business in another town (still in Essex).
So I have now written to that gallery and am hoping that the owners can remember the artist.

Fingers crossed!  :D

And thanks again, arthurk!

Best regards,
Karen
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