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Help with name
« on: Saturday 08 December 18 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Please could someone help with the name of the son of Peter Austin, many thanks.


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Re: Help with name
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 December 18 22:30 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Marshall.
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Re: Help with name
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 December 18 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Yes I thought Marsh but was not sure if the next bit was another word or part of the Marsh section,so Marshall seems most likely.
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Re: Help with name
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 December 18 23:51 GMT (UK) »
If you look at Nicholas Fisher and Thomas in the previous lines  and for that matter the h at the end of Marsh, then the second to last letter also looks like an h.

So something like Marshsihe. Which seems a nonsense, but that’s what I see.

Added, are they from Kent?  There is a hamlet named Marshside


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Re: Help with name
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 December 18 04:30 GMT (UK) »
It could be:  Marshe the sonn of Peter...

He doesn't cross his t (based on the extract).

I acknowledge that he hasn't put a the in the previous two records.

Another concern is the s.  Does he only use long-s in mid-word positions (as he has in what appears to be Austine)?

(By the way, it is Dicker above, not Fisher.)

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Re: Help with name
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 December 18 08:04 GMT (UK) »
If it is Dicker and not Fisher.

Then it could be "Marcke the sonn of Peter"


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Re: Help with name
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 December 18 09:42 GMT (UK) »
If it is Dicker and not Fisher.

Then it could be "Marcke the sonn of Peter"

I'll grant you the possibility of the c but not the k.  It's distinctively different.

So, yes, it could be Marche.

That also removes the concern over the long-s.

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Re: Help with name
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 December 18 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your replies.

A transcription gives the name a Matthew son of Peter Austine 29Dec 1667 Wymondham Norfolk, but I was not convinced!

Peter had another son Mathew (sic) baptised & Feb 1668/9 but I have not found a burial for the (unreadable) Matthew

Both of these baptisms can be seen on Family Search here:- http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n5j/

Have just noticed this baptism for 10 Feb 1667/8 on the same page which looks very similar

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I acknowledge that he hasn't put a the in the previous two records.
doesn't seem to use 'the' at all




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Re: Help with name
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 December 18 18:27 GMT (UK) »
doesn't seem to use 'the' at all

I'm of the opinion that your record has been scrubbed out and rewritten.

There's an orphaned part of a loop just below the o in sonn on the line above.  It's the kind of loop that might form part of an h, k, l or long-s.  Also, the surface of the page has an abraded look under the start of your record.

That could account for a change in the writer's usual habits.

Note that I'm not saying it must be the - just that it's a possibility.

Breaking it down, of the whole series of letters before the start of sonn, the second last is an h and the last is probably a scrubby e.

The third-last position really has to be a t, since i doesn't precede h in English.

So it's either a long name ending with the or it's the word the.

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See also that the bottom loop of the long-s of sonn in the record above just disappears at the edge of the abraded area.  Compare to the other instances of sonn.