G J FALKINER Western Australia

[majm]

Australian Electoral Roll
WA  Perth/Perth   1949
DHUE Mabel Mae  221 St Georges Terrace   Waitress

I learn new things every day .... I have NOT confirmed but I am reliably informed by my elderly archivist relly that ...... a married woman was eligible to enrol even if not yet 21.  Apparently, by being a married woman,  such status ...well it therefore showed she had reached her majority ... 

JM  ....  I have no spare moments to spend following that notion to its conclusion .... BUT does the W.A
 1957 m.c. give her status and her age and her parents details ...

JM

[majm]

Okay,  info from my elderly rellies .... It is definitely possible that GJF is still alive and known by that name.  He did not need to be an Australian Citizen to be enrolled to vote in the 1950s.  And if he moved interstate in the 1950s he was still eligible to enrol if he had lived at the one address for six months ...  BUT, in the 1950s and into the 1960s ... it was not compulsory for a British subject who was NOT an Australian citizen to enrol... (ADD ... and no one was 'policing' the compulsory aspect anyways even for Australian citizens... )

Some current info ...    https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/British_subjects.htm
Including the following
Yes, it is compulsory for British subjects who were enrolled for a federal electoral division in Australia immediately before 26 January 1984, to enrol to vote, even if following 25 January 1984 they have let their enrolment lapse. British subjects not on the roll immediately before 26 January 1984 are not eligible to enrol even if they were resident in Australia at that time.

and
Determining your eligibility to enrol and vote as a British subject in Australia
Only British subjects who were enrolled for a federal electoral division in Australia immediately before 26 January 1984 are eligible to enrol and vote at federal elections and referendums.

 



JM

[tascj]

I found a photo of the house at the address recorded on the Immigration record.  That was a great pickup that in 1958 it was occupied by Thomas Charles DHUE.  That is GJF's brother-in-law! 

I feel that GJF was in WA before he left for Japan.  I am yet to find the original immigration however. 

Child 1 born 1952 Informant Mother  Father listed as GJF
Child 2 born 1955 Informant Mother  Father listed as GJF

[tascj]

I have just looked at the 1957 Marriage Certificate again and the witnesses were Thomas Charles and Greta DHUE. (Same signature as the Immigration record)

[tascj]

Mabel M DHUE was in fact born May 1933. Also listed on the electoral rolls in 1949 as a waitress. That makes her 16.

[sparrett]

Mabel M DHUE was in fact born May 1933. Also listed on the electoral rolls in 1949 as a waitress. That makes her 16.

What is your source for this birth date?

It has been mentioned-
DHUE Mabel   Female
At Northam  225
Year 1931 


So,
We have a man who is not married to the mother of his WA children.
Arrives in WA for reasons of "army leave".
As  a married person.
Destination- the home of the brother of the mother of the WA children, who
may, by that time, be sharing her brother's home, but had previously been a waitress in Perth.  (Seemingly voting illegally, underage).
A marriage takes place in 1957.

Was he by then widowed?
Divorced?

Sue


 

[tascj]

There are a lot of questions.... hence my arrival on Rootschat!

On their 1957 marriage certificate it lists GJF's parents. But no-one can find them in England or a birth for him England. Supposedly he was born in Sudbury, England.  I do need to explore spelling variations however.

Sorry I have Mabel's WA Birth Certificate and yes born May 1931 (Family notes said 1933).   Sure there is a chance that the first two children were fathered by another man, but why is his name recorded. It would make sense if the registration took place years later but they didn't.

Birth 1 Sep 1952 registered Oct 1952
Birth 2 Mar 1955 registered Apr 1955

Surely that would mean he was in WA.

There are other odd discrepancies.

Just to confuse matters on Birth 1 parents were listed as married London 9 Sep 1947.   
Birth 2 parents were listed as married London 8 Sep 1949.

AND Mabel May listed herself as Mavis Delilah. She was know by both names.

My friend the 3rd child is confident her mother has never been to England.
 

[tascj]

Sue,
I feel he has been in WA before he went to Japan.

[dawnsh]

what is the actual date on the 1957 marriage cert?