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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 11 December 18 19:13 GMT (UK) »
From Lancs OPC.  Is this the marriage?

Marriage: 19 Jun 1890 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancashire, England
 James Harrison - 38, Painter, Bachelor, Billinge
 Mary Ellen Wilson - 29, Spinster, Billinge
     Groom's Father: James Harrison, Deceased
     Bride's Father: John Wilson, Deceased

In 1884 there is a marriage in Haydock for a James Harrison with father James and he is a House Painter.  He is listed as being 21years. Edit: aged 22

Marriage: 12 Sep 1884 St James, Haydock, Lancashire, England
 James Harrison - (X), 22, Collier, Bachelor, Stone Row, Haydock
 Mary Ellen Hughes - 18, Spinster, Lime Kiln Row, Haydock
     Groom's Father: James Harrison, (deceased), Collier
     Witness: Joshua Swift; Ellen Gleave

What information do you have that James was previously married?

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Kit

Ages of James at the 2 marriages don't correspond.

James and his father were colliers at 1884 wedding not painters.
There was a marriage of a James who was a painter and a Mary in 1887 but it was in Milnrow.

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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 11 December 18 20:12 GMT (UK) »
James died in 1898 age 46 so his age on his marriage to mary ellen wilson is right...if it is him that married mary ellen hughes then I wonder if it should have read 32 not 22... if not then its the wrong couple but I cant find another couple with those names who married in 1884
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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 December 18 20:25 GMT (UK) »
I was also querying that James who married 1890 was a painter whereas the one who married 1884 was a collier, son of a collier.

James Haydock was still a coal miner in Haydock on 1891 census - found by Carole.

 

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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 December 18 20:29 GMT (UK) »
In june 1890 my great great aunt Mary Ellen Wilson married a James Harrison at St Aidens in Billinge lancashire. It seems that he had already married in 1884. However the first mrs Harrison was neither deceased or divorced at the time of his second marriage.

Where did you get the information that your James Harrison married in 1884?



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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 December 18 20:46 GMT (UK) »
James died in 1898 age 46 so his age on his marriage to mary ellen wilson is right...if it is him that married mary ellen hughes then I wonder if it should have read 32 not 22... if not then its the wrong couple but I cant find another couple with those names who married in 1884

James Harrison, the collier was 29 on 1891 census. That fits with him being 22 at his wedding in 1884.

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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 11 December 18 21:00 GMT (UK) »
We know he was jailed twice..on the sutton beauty site it  names his legal wife as mary and the year of the marriage https://www.suttonbeauty.org.uk/suttonhistory/crime3/
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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 11 December 18 22:59 GMT (UK) »
From Lancs OPC.  Is this the marriage?

Marriage: 19 Jun 1890 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancashire, England
 James Harrison - 38, Painter, Bachelor, Billinge
 Mary Ellen Wilson - 29, Spinster, Billinge
     Groom's Father: James Harrison, Deceased
     Bride's Father: John Wilson, Deceased

In 1884 there is a marriage in Haydock for a James Harrison with father James and he is a House Painter.  He is listed as being 21years. Edit: aged 22

Marriage: 12 Sep 1884 St James, Haydock, Lancashire, England
 James Harrison - (X), 22, Collier, Bachelor, Stone Row, Haydock
 Mary Ellen Hughes - 18, Spinster, Lime Kiln Row, Haydock
     Groom's Father: James Harrison, (deceased), Collier
     Witness: Joshua Swift; Ellen Gleave

What information do you have that James was previously married?

Lots of folk happy to help.

Kit

Ages of James at the 2 marriages don't correspond.

James and his father were colliers at 1884 wedding not painters.
There was a marriage of a James who was a painter and a Mary in 1887 but it was in Milnrow.

Thanks Maiden Stone, I should have said Collier not painter.  I've added an edit to my original to show this
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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 22:09 GMT (UK) »
I thank you all  for taking the time to look for me. I have tried to post the paragraph about james harrison bigamy but it wouldnt let me so have just posted the link instead if it will let me.
      https://www.suttonbeauty.org.uk/suttonhistory/crime3/

The Liverpool Mercury has a little more details about the James Harrison bigamist. It names his wife Mary ELIZABETH Harrison

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Re: James Harrison
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 December 18 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Maybe this one  :-\  Lancs BMD has it as St Helens
Marriage Dec qtr 1885   
Harrison    James       
Webster    Mary Elizabeth       
Prescot    8b   914
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