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Burial record address
« on: Wednesday 12 December 18 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi all. I have identified an 1854 burial record, which I am reasonably certain is one of mine. However, it is water damaged. It is held at the LMA and, although I have tried to view the original, I am informed that its condition does not allow this. The microfilm image is much worse than that viewable on Ancestry.

The original image and an enhanced version are both attached. I am interested in the 'abode' of the first record but I have noticed that the second record seems to have a similar entry under 'abode'. There was a cholera outbreak, which was the cause of death for 'mine', which makes me think it was also the cause of the second person's death. I can't make out the name of this person, otherwise I would have tried the 1851 census.  Any help much appreciated.

Her address in 1851 was King St, Swk. Relations were in Green St & Birds Court, Green St. All together in the same area. She died in hospital, unfortunately (St Thomas').


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Re: Burial record address
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello

The Abode place in the address is Southwark.

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Try

Gravel Lane, Southwark

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 00:28 GMT (UK) »
Gravel Lane, Southwark


Entry 585
Hannah
Wad ? ? ?

Entry 586
Harriet
Holl ? ? ?


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 00:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Bushinn1746. Unfortunately, the only Gravel Lane I can see in 1850's is up in Middlesex, not Southwark, and she's definitely Southwark.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 01:23 GMT (UK) »
Gravel Lane, Southwark


1851 Kelly's Directory (transcript)
https://sculpture.gla.ac.uk/view/place.php?id=msib1_1231167580


https://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/SouthwarkChristchurch/index.shtml
Scroll down page, or Control F, search ...
George, 88 Gravel
Hope,
Kings Head,
Prince & Princess,
Tailors Arms,
White Hart,

Thomas Kaley ... late of the Hope, Gravel-Lane, Southwark, Surrey, Victualler. [1823]
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8g1KAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA1124&lpg=PA1124&dq=%22Hope,+Gravel+Lane%22+Southwark&source=bl&ots=bURXw640ZU&sig=m3QWr14hVyPGj2PTsHVsrkKowAw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjh0OWCmpnfAhWBsHEKHbvhBqAQ6AEwAXoECAYQAQ


Gravel Lane, Southwark, agreement and bond between the wardens and Messrs James and Jonathan Coleman and Joseph Ramsdale, builders, concerning erection of new almshouses.
Feb 1852
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/69ad260f-cc17-418d-a4f4-b2b983d93b24


The borough of Southwark: Charities
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/surrey/vol4/pp161-162
Has references to Gravel Lane

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 09:14 GMT (UK) »
As mark has said, Gravel Lane was indeed in Southwark.

But it seems that it became Holland Street at some time in the 1800's.
 
You can see Gravel Lane on this old map (below The Green Walk. The name appears upside down).
http://alondoninheritance.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Founder-6a-with-spot.jpg

Possibly although re-named it was still popularly known by the old name? It certainly appears as Holland Street on maps of the 1860's. https://maps.nls.uk/view/102345964#zoom=6&lat=2846&lon=6748&layers=BT

It was in the registration district of St Olave Southwark.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Possibly although re-named it was still popularly known by the old name? It certainly appears as Holland Street on maps of the 1860's.

From the South London Chronicle - Saturday 02 July 1898
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 December 18 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Possibly although re-named it was still popularly known by the old name? It certainly appears as Holland Street on maps of the 1860's.

From the South London Chronicle - Saturday 02 July 1898


In that case, where was it?  All the searches I've done indicate that the name was changed to Holland Street.
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