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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #180 on: Friday 15 March 19 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi L M he is the W on the 1901 shown with W H Spencer above?
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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #181 on: Friday 15 March 19 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Don't think we know who he belongs to

Keyboard can you or John check this out please

1901 130 Pond Rd
RG13/1570 F100 P 19

Goodwin names and birth places all over the place, Elizabeth shown as born in Guernsey, brother surname Copp/Cupp,

Georgina born 1897 is Georgina Cupp, MMN Connelly

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #182 on: Friday 15 March 19 19:28 GMT (UK) »
 :) George Copp 23 occ Farrier b Guernsey is in West Ham 1891 census
RG12/1317/94/42
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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #183 on: Friday 15 March 19 19:45 GMT (UK) »
But he states he is Elizabeth Goodwin's brother but  on various other census she states born Scotland
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #184 on: Saturday 16 March 19 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Marriage
22 August 1880, Kirkdale St Mary
Robert Goodwin (father Robert) + Elizabeth Connally (father Samuel)

For births have to be careful, there are some Goodwin - Connolly births in West Derby at the same time
Births, all with mother's maiden surname  Connelly
Robert William Goodwin, Sep 1881, West Derby 8b 427
Robert Samuel Goodwin, Dec 1883, West Derby 8b 274
Martha Ann Goodwin, March 1886, West Derby 8b 373
William Goodwin, March 1887, West Derby 8b 409

Death
Martha Ann Goodwin, age 0,  March 1886, West Derby 8b 324
Is this Martha one of "ours"?

Then the move down south
Births, mother Connelly
Emma North Goodwin, Dec 1889, West Ham 4a 130
Daniel Uriah Goodwin, March 1894, West Ham 4a 137
Elizabeth Cupp Goodwin, Sep 1897, West Ham 4a 158
Georgina Cupp Goodwin, Sep 1897, West Ham 4a 158

Deaths
Emma North Goodwin, age 0, June 1890, West Ham 4a 31
Elizabeth Cupp Goodwin, age 0, Dec 1897, West Ham 4a 78

Was Robert Goodwin really the father of Georgina and Elizabeth?

1891 RG12/1318 FOLIO 106 PAGE 50

Father Robert   in residence, able seaman

Now in that 1891 Goodwin household are
Martha Newell(?), sister in law, married, 24, born Liverpool
Martha Newell, niece, 7, born Poplar

But so far I haven't found the two Marthas in anything else.
John

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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #185 on: Saturday 16 March 19 11:52 GMT (UK) »
Births, mother Connelly
Emma North Goodwin, Dec 1889, West Ham 4a 130
Daniel Uriah Goodwin, March 1894, West Ham 4a 137

This is our big problem. In that gap should be Alice Maud / Maud. Possibly Dec 91/March 92 or thereabouts.

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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #186 on: Saturday 16 March 19 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Marriage
22 August 1880, Kirkdale St Mary
Robert Goodwin (father Robert) + Elizabeth Connally (father Samuel)

Witnesses were James Hy Richards, Mary Jane Richards

Possible marriage
March 1875 West Derby 8b 530
Connelly, Mary Jane
Richards, James Henry

That was also at Kirkdale St Mary, 8 February 1875
Mary Jane's father was Samuel Connelly, Painter
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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #187 on: Saturday 16 March 19 12:14 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the Richards family in 1881.
In Adelaide Street, Everton
Mary J. Richards born Scotland. The two children were registered in West Derby district.
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Re: Spencer Family. Canning Town
« Reply #188 on: Saturday 16 March 19 15:47 GMT (UK) »
I feel sure that Robert is the father of the 2 children

On  census  1901 she is shown as "W" but I haven't found a death that fits in with the timing

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes