Spencer Family. Canning Town

[louisa maud]

John, how about this

Baptism
Harriet Martha WEWELL
BORN 16/05/1884
BAPT 10/02/1885
MOTHER   Martha
AT All Hallows Poplar

Reg'd June qtr 1884 Harriet Martha WHEWELL, no MMN

Is this the child Martha on census

Louisa Maud

[jonw65]

Brilliant, Louisa Maud!
Yes, they must be the two Marthas in 1891.
As it said the elder Martha was sister in law to Mr Goodwin, and born Liverpool, I wondered if she was a sister of Elizabeth.
But Elizabeth was in Liverpool in 1871, daughter of Samuel Connally, and has no sister Martha
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGY-9TC

Another sister called Isabella is elsewhere in Liverpool in 1871, plus Mary Jane should be somewhere, we have seen her in the later marriage records. Or is she Janet (not too sure about that!)

Martha not really being married has changed things.
John

[louisa maud]

Martha born 1867 ish is on 1871/1881
Looks like mother Elisabeth and father John

mother may be MMN Hogg but I stand to be corrected

LM

[jonw65]

Martha Whewell may have died just after the 1901 census, there is one registered June quarter, West Ham. Age 34

Possibly Elizabeth was born in 1861 in Scotland - Elizabeth Connolly in Kelton district.

Father Samuel Connelly died in 1877, age 47. Buried at Anfield Cemetery, 14 October, image here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-B9ZD-2?i=517&cat=397178

[louisa maud]

John, you have been very busy with this thread, Tony must have a good few relations found for his tree

LM

[AJS1947]

Excuse me if I seem lost but where do these people fit in

I am Ok following Spencer/ Goodwin and Pedrick but now you have lost me

t
Tony

[jonw65]

Hi
Alice Maud, aka Maud, we believe is the daughter of Robert Goodwin and Elizabeth Connelly who married in Kirkdale, Liverpool, in 1880 (she is Connally on that, daughter of Samuel, who was deceased)

So we have been having a quick look into their background, well Elizabeth's really, since there are some oddities and anomalies.
1881 (from keyboard)
Elizabeth Goodwin, 19, born Scotland - wife of Robert, living in Kirkdale
1891 (from LM)
Elizabeth Goodwin(s), 28, born Scotland - wife of Robert, living in Canning Town
1901
Elizabeth Goodwin, 34, widow, born Guernsey - sister of George Copp, in West Ham
1911
Elizabeth Bennett, 44, born Scotland - wife of John, in Canning Town

The first one, 1881, is most accurate for Elizabeth.
1901 is just plain wrong!
1911 it would have been nice to have had a town or city of birth in Scotland.
John

[louisa maud]

Tony, please don't forget to let us know about the certs you receive then we can see if we can help you from then on

Louisa Maud

[AJS1947]

Thank you

I will most definitely let you have the information.

I pray my mothers side of the family is less complicated

Tony