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Offline Kay01

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WALSH/WELSH family
« on: Thursday 13 December 18 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Help needed - I am trying to trace my great grandparents but can't find anything! John Walsh 1856-1912 and his wife Mary 1854-1917. They were born in Ireland but moved to England some time before 1891. In England, they lived in Frizington, Cumberland and had 7 children, but only 5 survived according to the Census in 1911. On all the English census (censi?) they give their place of birth as Ireland. Their daughter, Annie Mary, born in 1894 was my grandma.

Other children in the family were John/Jack, dob 1873, also born in Ireland; Robert, dob 1877; Patrick/Patsy, dob 1881; Henry, dob 1888; Annie Mary, dob 1894, and possibly James, born 1904

John Walsh was an iron ore miner and probably a labourer. Tried tracing grandma, Annie Mary, through Cumbria Archives but they can't find any birth certificate for her, even though I do know she was born there. He may have been born in Vale of Avoca, Wicklow
Dorney/Durney; Croke/Croake; Brach, Welsh/Walsh(Ireland) Sherwen; White (Cumbria & Scotland)

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Re: WALSH/WELSH family
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 December 18 14:01 GMT (UK) »
You'll probably need Mary's maiden name to find the correct Walsh family in Irish records. Besides Annie Mary which other children were born in England?
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Re: WALSH/WELSH family
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 December 18 14:12 GMT (UK) »
In the indexes - there are these possibilities

Annie Mary mmn Brach
Henry  mmn Roach
James mmn Roach
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Re: WALSH/WELSH family
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 December 18 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Is this the correct family in 1901? If so, son Patrick born Ireland c1881-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSV2-FTJ

Possibilities:

A Henry Welsh- mother's maiden name Roach-
GRO Reference: 1887  D Quarter in WHITEHAVEN  Volume 10B  Page 594

An Annie Mary Welsh- mother's maiden name Brach-
GRO Reference: 1894  S Quarter in WHITEHAVEN  Volume 10B  Page 615

A Patrick Walsh born 30 Apr.1880, parents- John Walsh & Mary Roache-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02875/2053612.pdf
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Re: WALSH/WELSH family
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 December 18 14:20 GMT (UK) »
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Re: WALSH/WELSH family
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 December 18 14:21 GMT (UK) »
I was just going to post the marriage.

You can see in that written record how the surname was read  as Brach  in the birth I posted earlier.  :)
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Re: WALSH/WELSH family
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 December 18 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Parents James Walsh decd and Anna Murphy
             John Roach alive and Elizabeth Perse ?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633320#page/12/mode/1up

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Re: WALSH/WELSH family
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 December 18 14:50 GMT (UK) »
Think it's CENSUSES but not sure! English plurals of Latin derived words are a bit of a mess.eg Crocus CROCI etc. I have an interest in Walsh, my 2xg grandmother was Ann Troy nee Walsh b c1765 Alford Lincs. Seem to have come originally from Ireland.
Ayres Brignell Cornwell Harvey Shipp  Stimpson Stubbings (all Cambs) Baumber Baxter Burton Ethards Proctor Stanton (all Lincs) Luffman (all counties)