Epiphanius Spencer no 3

[Tineke]

Can anyone help me solve a mystery.  Epiphanius Spencer no 1   b1710. Laughter en le Morthen Yorkshire d1757:Everton Nottinghamshire  my husbands 6th great grandfather.  Epiphanius Spencer. no 2 b1744. Everton Nottinghamshire d 1836 Yorkshire. Husbands 5th great grandfather.
 
I have by chance come across records for Epiphanias Spencer no 3.  b1773. York.   Convicted of handling forged notes  convicted at Chester. 1818.    19th April sent to the Hulk Justitia Woolwich  Transported to N S W Australia on the ship Glory .
   
I a wondering with such an unusual name if Epiphanius no 3 is a relative of  the two previous  Epiphanius ‘s.   I have listed under Notts. but they all had connections with Yorkshire. I have tried to find a birth for Epiphanius. without success.  Has any one any ideas ?  Any help greatly appreciated
      Many thanks Tineke

[Mabel Bagshawe]

He gained his certificate of freedom in Australia in 1832 and there are a couple of possible marriages in NSW

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCT-F8X
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTZV-SZH

I'm also getting hits for Australian records on Ancestry, but no subs to access them. Maybe worth trying on the Australia board here?

[Tineke]

Thanks for your reply. I have all Australian records.      I am trying to find any connection to Epiphanias 1and 2 I have been trying to work backwards to see if he was perhaps the son of one of the brothers  but no luck so far.   Thank you

[Maiden Stone]

Did his name mean Epiphany? Was he Non-conformist or perhaps Quaker? Perhaps from a denomination which didn't do infant baptisms?

[Tineke]

Hi.  I know nothing about Epiphanias 3.   I wondered if he was connected to my Epiphanias’s 1& 2 with having the same unusual  Christian name. It may be a shot in the dark. , there may be no connection.   Epiphanias 1 &2.  Were both baptised. so. they were not quakers .Thank  you for your reply. , much appreciated.    Tineke

[Dizzifish]

Hello...

I haven't got to grips with understanding the different Epiphanias  Spencer's '

My query is re

Epiphanius Spencer. no 2 b1744. Everton Nottinghamshire d 1836 Yorkshire

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As you say the above Epiphanius was baptised at Everton Holy Trinity - 28th Oct 1744

But there is a burial at Everton Holy Trinity for an Epiphanius SPENCER - 23rd April 1816, aged 72 yrs ( born abt 1744)  ..... surely this burial is your Epiphanius ?

Here are a few pieces of info which may help in sorting them out? 

Marriage =  CLAYWORTH St Peter
26th Feb 1767 - Epiphanias SPENCER & Hannah KITCHEN   

Baptism - 12th January 1769 BAWTRY St Nicholas (S Yorks)
Epiphanus - Son of William SPENCER

As well as Epiphanus it is possible that William Spencer had seven more children baptised at Bawtry between 1764 & 1777 there is no mothers name given and I can't see a suitable marriage at Bawtry.                                 

[Tineke]

I numbered them  1 2 &3:to try and avoid confusion.  Epiphanias. Spencer 1 is the 6 th great grandfather b1710 Laughton en le Morthen  Yorkshire d 1757 Everton Notts.   Epiphanias. 2 is the son & 5 th great grandfather. b Everton 1744.  d Laughten en le Morthen 1836.   Epiphanias 3 is the unknown one. just trying to find if he was related. He was born 1773 Yorkshire.
   Epiphanias 2 b 1744. did marry, Hannah.  Kitchen .
     I had not come across the William. Spencer  from   Bawtry.   I will take a look
     Many thanks

[Maiden Stone]

   Epiphanias 3 is the unknown one. just trying to find if he was related. He was born 1773 Yorkshire.
   

Do you have a baptism for him? If not, where did you find/calculate year and place of birth?

[Tineke]

I cannot find a baptism that is why I am seeking help .The details I have are from court records where he is charged with handling forged notes. Records give birth as. 1773  York or Yorkshire. . He was transported to N S W Australia. for 14 years.