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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 December 18 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Somebody may be able to tell you  much more specifically how to find the prison records in 1871, but I know when I was doing my OH's tree, an ancestor of his was in "Strangeways" - this was in 1901, but it wasn't indexed as that. It came under  "Institution: His Majestys Prison, Southall Street Cheetham".
Just an idea.

Thank you, goldie61, that's really useful 👍🏽
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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 December 18 12:09 GMT (UK) »
I can't see Strangeways Prison in 1871, but there is Cheetham District County Prison For Salford, RG10; Piece: 4064; Folio: 85; Page: 1 which looks like it could be it, as there are 33 pages.

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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 December 18 12:17 GMT (UK) »
I've found this prison in 1871 - is it the correct one?

The county prison for the hundred of Salford.  Situated in Cheetham, Manchester.
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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 December 18 12:18 GMT (UK) »
I can't see Strangeways Prison in 1871, but there is Cheetham District County Prison For Salford, RG10; Piece: 4064; Folio: 85; Page: 1 which looks like it could be it, as there are 33 pages.

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Must have cross posted, Stan! I think that's the one I've just found.  Off to scrutinise it now!
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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 December 18 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Well I've gone through all 33 pages, and he's not there, so I can discount the prison now.  Back to the drawing board.

Thanks all for your help and suggestions!
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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 December 18 13:14 GMT (UK) »
I can't see Strangeways Prison in 1871, but there is Cheetham District County Prison For Salford, RG10; Piece: 4064; Folio: 85; Page: 1 which looks like it could be it, as there are 33 pages.

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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 16 December 18 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Given that he wasn’t from the area he may have just said “Strangeways” rather than Cheetham (Cheetwood) as that would be the most prominent place in the area.

I found his marriage and his wife Mary is staying at Red Bank and she can be found there on 1871 Census. Red Bank is adjacent to Strangeways - if you google Red Bank Manchester and zoom in on google maps you will see it.

Cheetham has 13 enumeration districts including the prison to trawl through  :-[
Meehan - Sligo and Manchester
Currell - Princes Risborough and Manchester
Gee - Congleton, Salford and Manchester
Withers - Hornby, Manchester and Salford
Dodd - Congleton, Salford and Manchester

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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 December 18 13:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Footo.  I had misread her address on her marriage certificate and thought it said New Bank. I already had her at Red Bank in the 1871 census, but hadn't joined the dots, so thank you for setting me straight  :). Always helps to have a second pair of eyes  ;D. I can see it clearly, now!

I'll do as you suggest regarding the Red Bank area 👍🏼

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Re: Strangeways - prison or area?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 December 18 13:54 GMT (UK) »
There are a few Roberts born Scotland @ 1844 who were joiners in this area in 1871 but none appear to be mistranscribed   :-\  and most can be found later on the 1881 Census

He’s either elsewhere mistranscribed, using an alias, or has been missed out.

I have a 2x Gt grandma who is missing on the 1871 Census (Greengate) with her children I can find her husband lodging elsewhere in Cheshire. I’ve tried every permutation to locate her over the last 15 years and trawled through all the Greengate enumeration districts - I know she was in the area as I have a baptism for one of their children a few months before the census was taken.
Meehan - Sligo and Manchester
Currell - Princes Risborough and Manchester
Gee - Congleton, Salford and Manchester
Withers - Hornby, Manchester and Salford
Dodd - Congleton, Salford and Manchester