Stephen Puddephatt

[corinthian]

Hi again,

John Puddephatt (1764-1858) and Elizabeth Barnes (1762-1819) were the parents of John Puddepehatt (1791-1838) and Stephen Puddephatt (1793-1867) so I think it unlikely that they would have had another son named Stephen in 1813/1814. Also Elizabeth Barnes would have been in her 50s by 1813/1814??.

NB: The widowed John Puddephatt (1764-1858) went on to marry Mary Dearing in 1830.

Kind regards,

Coreen

[heywood]

I am confused a bit. You mention this Stephen but, as has been said, a different one in your post.

 

Hi everyone,
My Stephen died in 1867 and I have looked at his National Probate Calendar record, in which it is recorded that he left a Will, but I have been unable to trace the Will online. Via the NPC record he mentions sons, Abednego, Meshach and John. The Stephen Puddephatt , born in about 1813/1814, who I suspect may have been another son, died in 1856, so wouldn't be mentioned in Stephen senior's NPC record.  Stephen junior's children, though, could have been mentioned in their, (potential), grandfather's Will.  One of Stephen junior's daughter's was named Lydia, after his mother???

Does anyone know where I can hold of Stephen senior's Will?   

Kind regards,

Coreen

You can obtain the will for £10, I think.
https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

The index does mention those sons and two codicils.

Could the younger Stephen be the son of Ruth Elbourne?

[corinthian]

Hi, sorry to be confusing everyone but my original post said    '...…. I am trying to confirm whether or not the Stephen Puddephatt who was born in about 1813/1814 in Chesham, Bucks and who married Elizabeth Adams on 20/10/1833 in Chesham, Bucks and who died in June 1856, aged 44, in Tyler's Hill, Chesham, Bucks (buried 15/06/1856 at St, Mary's Chesham, Bucks), was the son of Stephen Puddephatt (1793-1867) and Lydia Nash (1796-1833)'.  Not quite sure where the confusion lies???

Anyway will try and get to order a copy of Stephen's Will from https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate from 1867. Hopefully that will have some information in it that will answer my query.


Kind regards,


Coreen   

[heywood]

Perhaps it is all down to interpretation.

I thought you were trying to confirm that Stephen Puddephatt born abt 1813/14 Chesham was the son of Stephen Puddephatt b 1793 and not the others named in various trees. Your focus seemed to be the younger one.

We were trying to establish information about  Stephen (1813/14) through various processes including census addresses and various marriages of the people you mention.

Later, in the thread, the emphasis shifted to the older Stephen (1793) and that’s where the confusion arose.

You have explained though now, thank you. Good luck with ordering the will.

Heywood

[corinthian]

Hi,

Thank you for all your input.

Regards,

Coreen

[Vance Mead]

It looks like they had been living near there, in west Herts, for a very long time. Here are two, spelling Podyfat, from the Court of Common Pleas.

Hilary term 1531, third entry:
Herts. William Beyston by his attorney versus John Wellys of Berkhamsted Magna, weaver; Thomas Podyfat, of Berkhamsted Magna, weaver; Thomas Hether, of Berkhamsted Magna, smith. Debt of 40 shillings from each.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H8/CP40no1068/aCP40no1068fronts/IMG_0465.htm

Easter term 1416, last full entry:
Herts. John Podyfat & Christian his wife by William Halle their attorney petition versus William Boure of St Albans, eight acres of (arable) land and three acres of wood in Tytenanger/Tyttenhanger.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no621/aCP40no621fronts/IMG_0563.htm

[corinthian]

Hi Vance,

They must have been i the area for generations!  Thanks for the links - i've not seen them before.


Regards,


Coreen

[Vance Mead]

It looks like ground zero is around Tring and Berkhamsted.

These are from Hertfordshire Lay Subsidy Rolls, 1307 and 1334
(ed. Janice Brooker and Susan Flood)

All in 1307:

Stocks, within Aldbury
Peter Pudyfat, paid 7½ d

Flamstead
John Pudyfat, paid 2 s 1¼ d

Ashridge
John Pudyfat, paid 5 s ¾ d

Adam Pudyfat, paid 3 ¾ d

[corinthian]

Hi Vance,

We're obviously not a very adventurous family - I still live in Hertfordshire although occasionally am known cross into another county!

Regards,

Coreen