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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 December 18 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Rosie - maybe two Johns then?


The 1837 electoral roll has
Puddephat, John Jnr Hog Lane, Chesham and Puddephat, John Chesham

The 1838 only has one John in Chesham

The elder John is on the 1841  in Ashley Green Lane, Chesham age 75 so maybe he is the one who married Ruth Elbourne?

Ashley Green Lane continues from Hog Lane in the census. John is also there in 1851 with wife Mary.

Free Reg shows a marriage 1830 - J P, widower to Mary Dearing. Ruth died 1831.
Difficult isn't it.  :-\
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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 December 18 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Found the first marriage, I think, for that John P.

October 1790
John Puddiphatt 26 yrs and Eliz. Barnes 26 yrs bride’s abode ,  Ashley Green
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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 December 18 16:24 GMT (UK) »
In 1798 there were several Puddephats in Ashley Green:

http://www.bucksrecsoc.org.uk/BRS-VOLUMES/brs-vol-22.pdf

In Ashley Green (pages 143-44):
John Puddephat, farmer
George Puddephat, servant
James Puddephat, servant
James Puddephat, labourer (lame)
Joseph Puddephat, labourer
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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 December 18 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Found the first marriage, I think, for that John P.

October 1790
John Puddiphatt 26 yrs and Eliz. Barnes 26 yrs bride’s abode ,  Ashley Green

There is a burial in Chesham for Elizabeth Puddephat wife of John 11 Dec 1834 sorry that one is 1734!

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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 December 18 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Still no Stephen and I see you have lots of info re the Puddephatts, Coreen. There are marriages but no baptisms  :-\
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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 07:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

Thanks for all your responses. Just to reply to some of the queries raised. The Stephen I am trying to find out about was born in 1793 and died in 1867. He married firstly Lydia Nash in 1818 and, following her death in 1833, married Sarah Barnes in 1837. He had several children from both marriages. 

The John Puddephatt who left a Will in 1838 was Stephen's brother (1791-1838). He mentions in his Will his wife, Ann, (nee Foord/Ford), and another brother, Daniel.  When John married Ann Foord in 1818 he is recorded as a bachelor, so i don't think that he is the same John Puddephatt who married Ruth Elbourne in 1808.


My Stephen died in 1867 and I have looked at his National Probate Calendar record, in which it is recorded that he left a Will, but I have been unable to trace the Will online. Via the NPC record he mentions sons, Abednego, Meshach and John. The Stephen Puddephatt , born in about 1813/1814, who I suspect may have been another son, died in 1856, so wouldn't be mentioned in Stephen senior's NPC record.  Stephen junior's children, though, could have been mentioned in their, (potential), grandfather's Will.  One of Stephen junior's daughter's was named Lydia, after his mother???

Does anyone know where I can hold of Stephen senior's Will?   

Kind regards,

Coreen

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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your responses. Just to reply to some of the queries raised. The Stephen I am trying to find out about was born in 1793 and died in 1867. He married firstly Lydia Nash in 1818 and, following her death in 1833, married Sarah Barnes in 1837. He had several children from both marriages. 

I am confused, your first post is not asking about that Stephen  :-\  I thought you were after Stephen the youngers parents

Just wondered if anyone out there can help. I am trying to confirm whether or not the Stephen Puddephatt who was born in about 1813/1814 in Chesham, Bucks and who married Elizabeth Adams on 20/10/1833 in Chesham, Bucks and who died in June 1856, aged 44, in Tyler's Hill, Chesham, Bucks (buried 15/06/1856 at St, Mary's Chesham, Bucks),
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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 07:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie,

I'm trying to verify if Stephen Senior (1793-1838) and Lydia Nash were the parents of the Stephen Puddephatt, born in 1813/1814. If so, he was born before their marriage in 1818, which is why I'm not sure. Hope this clarifies things for you, sorry if it's all got a little confusing!

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Coreen

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Re: Stephen Puddephatt
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 07:53 GMT (UK) »
So far we have not been able to find a baptism for Stephen (the younger) but like Heywood I am more inclined to think he was part of this family and not Stephen & Lydias child.


Your Stephen is living in Hog Lane in 1841 close to Ann Puddephatt with her sons John and Reuben. Similarly in 1851 he is close to Reuben.

John Puddephatt married Ruth Elbourne 1808
John Puddephatt married Ann Foorde 1816

Are these the same person?
Which John left a will in 1838, I wonder.

There is a burial for a Ruth Puddephatt in 1831 but no age  :-\
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