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Marriage of Robert SUGDEN
« on: Monday 17 December 18 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I am trying to find details of the marriage of Robert SUGDEN in Kidderminster December quarter of 1882.  It was probably to a Sarah HORTON.  Robert left for America just three years later but no mention is made in his obituary of this second wife and I can't find her on US censuses.  Does anyone have access to the parish record which might give more detail?  Otherwise I shall have to bite the bullet and buy a certificate.
Merry Christmas all
Martyn
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Re: Marriage of Robert SUGDEN
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 December 18 10:19 GMT (UK) »
These are the people in the index for the 1882 marriage

Sarah Horton
Rhoda Knight
Joseph Mumford
Robert Sugden

Later records show Joseph and Rhoda Mumford.

I can’t see any parish records for Robert and Sarah. Are you looking for other confirmation?

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Re: Marriage of Robert SUGDEN
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 December 18 10:30 GMT (UK) »
I see that Robert still claims to be married in the 1900 US census (Philadelphia, with son George W & family).

Presumably this is the relevant passenger list?

Lord Gough, Liverpool-Philadelphia arr 23 August 1885

Robt Sugden 40 b England, laborer
Wm Sugden 16 b England, laborer [his son George William b 1868]

What happened to his daughters?  Perhaps they were with Sarah somewhere?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Marriage of Robert SUGDEN
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 December 18 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Daughters (from Robert’s marriage to Louisa Maria Askin, who died 1880):

Clara Elizabeth Sugden, mmn Askin, Dec qtr 1870 Kidderminster

Edith Kate Sugden, mmn Askin, Dec qtr 1876 Kidderminster
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marriage of Robert SUGDEN
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 December 18 10:43 GMT (UK) »
I see that “Kate” Sugden b Sep 1876 was a boarder in Philadelphia in 1900.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marriage of Robert SUGDEN
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 December 18 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Robert Sugden – Bobbin Maker
Birth 1845 Heighley, Yorkshire, England
Residence 1861 Kidderminster, WorcestershireAge 16, living with his older brother

Married 1867 to Louisa Maria Askin, she died 1880 in Kidderminster

1871 Broadwater,   Worcs.
Robert Sugden    26
Louisa M Sugden    24
George W Sugden    2
Clara S Sugden    5 Months

Robert still there 1881 + George, Clara, Edith K, age 4

In 1871 & 1881 Sarah Horton a widow is a servant (Cook) in Wolverley, born Kidderminster about 1841. Married Robert Sugden 1882.

So is this Sarah below?
Sarah Sugden
Birth abt 1842
Death 03/1918 Kidderminster Worcestershire


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Re: Marriage of Robert SUGDEN
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 December 18 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Hey.  You folks are good.  Edith Kate married in 1902 in America and her sister Clara married in America in 1894.  If they didn't travel with their father and brother it suggests that they went to US later ie between 1885 and 1894.  Logically their mother would have gone with them which would rule out the 1918 death of Sarah Sugden in Kidderminster.  Perhaps she returned home. 
Hare (Pembrokeshire and Glamorgan), Stanford (Glamorgan), Hodgson (Lincolnshire and Surrey), Sugden (Keighley and Worcestershire), Griffiths (Kidwelly and Glamorgan), Collins (Kidderminster), Evans (Cwmavon), Mainwaring (Llanedi and Cwmavon), Rees (Neath), Jones (Resolven), Paddison (Neath), Davies (Crynant), Bevan (Tonna).