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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 December 18 22:54 GMT (UK) »
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He was in the Navy, they lived in Wales for sometime before returning to Pollock area.  He then disappeared.  He went to sea and never returned (he did not die, he just fled his family).

Roughly what year did he disappear?

Was he in the Royal or the Merchant navy?

Having his actual birthdate could be useful when looking for a death for him
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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 December 18 23:38 GMT (UK) »
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He was in the Navy, they lived in Wales for sometime before returning to Pollock area.  He then disappeared.  He went to sea and never returned (he did not die, he just fled his family).

Roughly what year did he disappear?

Was he in the Royal or the Merchant navy?

Having his actual birthdate could be useful when looking for a death for him

Disappearance in the early 1960s from what I can gather.  Royal Navy (with no particular status or rank), and 1929 seems to be the birth estimate, but I can't find definitive documentation yet.

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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 December 18 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Dancingscottie you can view 1929 births at General register House in Edinburgh and a few other locations otherwise you would need to order it from Scotlands People

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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 00:07 GMT (UK) »
The marriage between Euphemia and James Duff was in 1924 in Bonhill Her name is indexed as Euphemie this Euphemia died 1977 in Vale of Leven mothers ms Cowan age 73 There is a marriage between a Donald Crerar and Jemmia Cowan in 1896 in Bonhill and a birth of a Euphemia Crerar in Bonhill 1903 so not sure about the 1929 birth in Aberfeldy

Has her middle name:

DUFF James CRERAR Euphemie Watson 1924 493/ 91 Bonhill

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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 00:12 GMT (UK) »
If he was in the RN and at sea, I think money (an allotment) from his wages would have been going directly to your grandmother for support.    I am not sure but I think this was a statutory requirement although I am happy to be corrected if this was not the case.

If this stopped - it would be because he left the RN and presumably your grandmother would have contacted them when the money ceased and been told that.

There is an outside possibility the RN have further info but they would not give it to your mother without proof of her fathers death - which is a mystery at the moment.

Do you know if your grandmother ever applied for a divorce?   

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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Birth:

DUFF JOHN MCNICOL M 1929 493/ 113 Bonhill

There are only 4 DUFF children (boys) born in Bonhill between 1924 and 1942.

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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Have you connected the Crerar and the McNicol families. Could he have been given to a family member?

Added: How do you know he was ‘given’ to a McNicol family?

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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 00:52 GMT (UK) »
The 1911 census CREARAR 493/ 12/ 13 Bonhill Dunbarton

Donald 38
Jemima 38
Lizzie 12 - CRERAR ELIZABETH HERDM 1899 493/ 46 Bonhill
Donald 10 - CRERAR DONALD STEWART 1900 493/ 428 Bonhill
Euphemia 7 - CRERAR EUPHEMIA 1903 493/ 334 Bonhill
Catherine 2 - CRERAR CATHERINE STEWA 1908 493/ 391 Bonhill

CRERAR JEMIMA COWAN F 1911 493/ 365 Bonhill

Marriage:

CRERAR Donald COWAN Jemima 1896 493/ 91 Bonhill

1901 census CRERAR 493/ 13/ 27 Bonhill Dunbarton

Donald 28
Jemima 28
John 4 - CRERAR JOHN HERDMAN 1896 493/ 338 Bonhill
Elizabeth H 2 - CRERAR ELIZABETH HERDM 1899 493/ 46 Bonhill
Donald 0 - CRERAR DONALD STEWART 1900 493/ 428 Bonhill

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Re: John McNicol / Miller (born in mid/late 1920s) Glasgow
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 December 18 01:25 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Wendy on the death of Euphemia:

CRERAR Euphemia 74 mmn COWAN 1977 503/ 277 Vale Of Leven

DUFF Euphemia 74 mmn COWAN 1977 503/ 277 Vale Of Leven

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