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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 December 18 05:10 GMT (UK) »
Is it possible he returned to Germany and emigrated again in 1857.

Geelong Advertiser and Intellingencer  27 Jul 1852
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article91930691

Jul 23  HERO brig for Adelaide.  Passengers........WORTMAN.


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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 December 18 06:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I guess he could have returned and then arrived in SA at a later date, his naturalization papers though give his first arrival on the Gottengen which looks very close to the Victorian arrival on the Gollingen.

I guess the next step is to try to find the Poppe families arrival in SA. Or some record of their travels.

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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 December 18 06:37 GMT (UK) »
I don't think he arrived in South Australia at all.  Why would he give similar information on this document.

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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 December 18 07:01 GMT (UK) »
Jacob POPP arrived on the VICTORIA at Melbourne in 1854.  Wife Catherine and daughter Anna.  Entered on manifest as BOPP.



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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 December 18 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Cando,
I'm putting a lot of our photos into scrapbooks and adding other information as well. Saves wall space and we can display more for visiting families. This will all look great.
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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 December 18 01:08 GMT (UK) »
Victorian Government Gazette is online if you wish to add the following to your collection

WORTMANN John H
Gazetted  8 Aug 1879  Page# 1987
Bungil
Applications for Licenses Approved

WORTMANN John H
Gazetted  6 Nov 1885  Page# 3040
Bungil
Applications for Licenses Approved

Family stories are often full or errors and assumptions.  John or Henry as he was known, emigrated in 1857 aged 20 years.  Was it possible he then travelled to Hahndorf as per family story?
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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 December 18 04:03 GMT (UK) »
I just found the source of our information on the arrival of john Henry Wortmann, it was taken from oral history told by his Grand daughter in 1987. It says they arrived about 1840 which we know is wrong, and settled at Germantown, Hahndorf is added later.
Given his naturalization papers have the name of the ship which he arrived in Melbourne aboard, I think the name 'Germantown' has thrown them off a bit.
Perhaps there was misunderstanding in the telling of the story because she goes on to says that the family traveled from Jindera, crossed the Murray River at Whyma and took up land at Bungil, which is just up the river from Granya.
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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 22 December 18 07:01 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps J H WORTMANN was first at Germantown VIC, now Grovedale near Geelong?

As an aside, my ancestors were at Hahndorf in 1841 and as far as I know it was never known as Germantown. The first settlers named the place after Captain Hahn their emigrant ship's captain.

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Re: Wortmann arrival South Australia
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 December 18 07:17 GMT (UK) »
Rhonda I agree with you.  I think Hahndorf was called Ambleside for a period too.

I did read that a number of emigrants were to work on the vines in the Geelong area.

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