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Pancras Place?
« on: Friday 21 December 18 09:36 GMT (UK) »
I have an address entry in one of my baptism parish records as 'Pancras Place' but for the life of me I can't locate it. It's from the early 1840's. Does anyone here know where 'Pancras Place' was located?
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Re: Pancras Place?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 December 18 10:06 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Pancras Place?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 December 18 10:09 GMT (UK) »
I have an address entry in one of my baptism parish records as 'Pancras Place' but for the life of me I can't locate it. It's from the early 1840's. Does anyone here know where 'Pancras Place' was located?

To add to the above....

...In a map of London for 1793, beyond the Spa and ad-
joining fields, appears Pancras Place and the Inoculation
Hospital, then a small building, which, with its large lawn,
faced the cross roads of BatUe Bridge, The Inoculation

from: https://archive.org/stream/saintpancraspas00millgoog/saintpancraspas00millgoog_djvu.txt

You could also scan:
https://www.oldmapsonline.org/map/harvard/10202944

...using the descriptions given above.

I don't know London though....

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Re: Pancras Place?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 December 18 10:28 GMT (UK) »
If it’s the one off Tottenham Court Rd, then it doesn’t show (as named) on my Stanford’s 1862 map, but what was then Pancras St is now Capper St*. From the description in ShaunJ’s extract (“first on the left”) it may have connected Pancras St with Mortimer Market.

It’s very close to what was in 1862 University College Hospital and is now that hospital’s Macmillan Cancer Centre - not sure whether the Inoculation Hospital occupied the same site in the 18th century.

*I see that the street naming in 1861 is consistent with the Harvard maps from the 1820s.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Pancras Place?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:01 GMT (UK) »


*I see that the street naming in 1861 is consistent with the Harvard maps from the 1820s.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ijYKvUP9GuQLrB9q5WUK6eLcOgrFwYUZ
Here is a visual from the Harvard map of the area described.....

no Pancras square.  Is it in the white join i wonder...

Edit:
Using description in ShaunJ's post, it could also be this unnamed square that i have highlighted perhaps...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WAOOCWfnzgERzz9vpX8VHrAX5RXZe9V0

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Re: Pancras Place?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:25 GMT (UK) »
The one in the Tottenham Court Rd area is said to be off Pancras Street (rather than Pancras Square) which does appear on the maps.  The relevant Pancras Place does not, so is likely to be a very small street or passage.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Pancras Place?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:57 GMT (UK) »
This is the link to the Horwood map 1790s - Pancras's Place
http://www.romanticlondon.org/explore-horwoods-plan/#18/51.53166/-0.12497
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:06 GMT (UK) »
This is the link to the Horwood map 1790s - Pancras's Place
http://www.romanticlondon.org/explore-horwoods-plan/#18/51.53166/-0.12497

Ah OK, so this is the second one on the list in ShaunJ’s extract - by 1862 it was Old Pancras Rd, now York Way.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Pancras Place?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:10 GMT (UK) »
... and this is the link for Pancras Street off Tottenham Court Road
http://www.romanticlondon.org/explore-horwoods-plan/#18/51.52236/-0.13561

... and on both of these links you can click different versions of the map using the 'layer' box in the top right corner of the map.
Almeroth, Germany (probably Hessen). Mawer, Softley, Johnson, Lancaster, Tatum, Bucknall (E.Yorks, Nfk, Lincs)

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