Author Topic: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.  (Read 2167 times)

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Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« on: Friday 21 December 18 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have any information the birth or death of Ethel. She married William Henry Ledster in March 1919 in Swansea, but I can't find any record of her death, although William was down as married in the 1939 census. I'm also unable to find any record of her birth, or her parents. Any information would be appreciated.
Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 December 18 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Their marriage record should have information that could help such as her father's name or an address that may be useful. Also the witnesses could be relatives and give hints.
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 December 18 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Did William remarry in Swansea in 1943?  Where have you found him in 1939?

I can’t see any Ledster/Norman births in England & Wales.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:03 GMT (UK) »
William remarried in Swansea to Annie Williams (nee Davies) in Mar 1943, he had been lodging with her and her husband Henry Morton Stanley Williams. He was killed in El Alamein in Jan 1942. In the 1939 census he was living with Joseph and Elizabeth Thomas. She was his eldest sister.
Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay


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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:07 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the civil certificate from 1919 when he married Ethel?
as this is where you are more likely to find information on her
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:09 GMT (UK) »
In the 1939 census he was living with Joseph and Elizabeth Thomas. She was his eldest sister.

Where  :-\  Could you please give details

The 1939 is not a census but a civilian register compiled for WW2  ;)
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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:12 GMT (UK) »
William remarried in Swansea to Annie Williams (nee Davies) in Mar 1943, he had been lodging with her and her husband Henry Morton Stanley Williams. He was killed in El Alamein in Jan 1942.

This is odd, as Annie Williams (later Ledster) appears already to be widowed by 1939.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 December 18 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Since the marriage was just after the war, I was wondering if you have considered that Ethel was previously married and was a war widow when she married William? I also think your next step is to obtain the 1919 marriage cert.

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 December 18 14:43 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the 1939 "census" was the WW2 civil register.
Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay