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A changed surname?
« on: Friday 21 December 18 11:19 GMT (UK) »
I recently ordered the birth certificate of my 2nd great-grandmother, Mary Ann Doran which confirms her birth date of 27th Aug 1878 (which I know to be true as it is also on the 1939 census). The birth certificate also names Mary Ann's father to be John Doran (also detailed as John on Mary Ann's marriage certificate in 1897).
I knew Mary Ann's mother was called Margaret as it is in the 1881 census.
In the birth certificate, the father's occupation is a labourer, however on Mary Ann's marriage certificate he is named as a shipwright.
Also In the birth certificate I ordered, the mother is named as Margaret Doran, previously Stewart. However, I am struggling to find any records relating a Margaret Stewart to a John Doran. I am however seeing records for a Margaret Kapene/Henry?
I was wondering about the accuracy of this birth certificate? 

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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Motherís maiden name is Stewart:

DORAN, MARY  ANN mmn STEWART
GRO Reference: 1878  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 155

I assume this is the cert you have.

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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Is this the 1881 census you mean  :-\
Richmond Row, Liverpool
John I   H   Doran   55      Cotton Porter   bn Liverpool
Margaret   Doran   41   bn Workington, Cumberland
Mary A   Doran   2   bn Liverpool
C H   Doran Son   13   bn Liverpool
RG11/3631 f103 p16

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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Is this the 1881 census you mean  :-\
Richmond Row, Liverpool
John I H   Doran   55      Cotton Porter   bn iverpool
Margaret   Doran   41   bn Workington, Cumberland
Mary A   Doran   2   bn Liverpool
C H   Doran Son   13   bn Liverpool
RG11/3631 f103 p16
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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Motherís maiden name is Stewart:

DORAN, MARY  ANN mmn STEWART
GRO Reference: 1878  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 155

I assume this is the cert you have.

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Yes that's the one I have

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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 December 18 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Could she have been married previously?

Jun 1877 Liverpool 8b 368a
BELL Margaret
DORAN John

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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Who did Mary Ann marry.  Could you please give census reference and details for her after her marriage.  Do you have her in 1891
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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Iíve been looking at the 1871 census using Margaret, her birth year +-2 and place of birth. Still thinking she may have been previously married.

The Stewart family with a son Joseph isnít her, as they are on the 1881.

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Re: A changed surname?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 December 18 12:33 GMT (UK) »
Could she have been married previously?

Jun 1877 Liverpool 8b 368a
BELL Margaret
DORAN John

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LancashireBMD index normally gives alternative surnames with a previous marriage for a female but there is nothing showing on this one.  :-\
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