Ernest Hartley died WW1 - totally stumped by date of birth and census records

[ewontner]

Hello

Ernest Hartley is one of 305 men who worked for the Board of Trade in London in WW1 and is named on the war memorial. We have traced all the names and found 103 photos of the men. Sadly Ernest Hartley remains one of only 3 men where we can't locate his birth details or find him in a census.

I know he was a Private in the Civil Service Rifles who died on 30 June 1917. His regimental Nos were 532121 and 4781 and he enlisted at Somerset House in London, England.

I also know from his probate that he lived at 36 Sussex Street, Warwick Square, London.

He is named on Panel 54 of YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL.

Executors on death are named as Samuel Hartley, William Hartley and Frederick Hartley.

Can someone help to identify his birth and family details?

Totally stumped. Thanks

Ed Osborne

[avm228]

Interesting.  As you have probably identified, he was not at 36 Sussex St in 1911.  These would have been big Pimlico houses, divided formally or informally into apartments of a few rooms so the address would have been occupied by several families at a time.  If you wish to browse through who was there, look for Felix Pannell as a starter.

Has the 1917 military death certificate been obtained in case it provides Ernest’s age at least?

[[Ray]]

Hi,     

Probate calendar does not mention William in the probate award.     

What other sources ( and info ) do you have?     


Regards     

Ray

[mckha489]

Newspaper
Says son of late John of Aysgarth, Horsforth

21 July 1917 - Leeds Mercury - Leeds, Yorkshire, England

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The name William comes from the Register of Soldiers’ Effects.

Ernest’s accrued pay was remitted on 30 Jan 1918 to “executors Samuel & Frederick Hartley”.

His war gratuity was paid out on 27 Oct 1919 to “executors Samuel & William Hartley”.

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Newspaper
Says son of late John of Aysgarth, Horsforth

21 July 1917 - Leeds Mercury - Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Therefore born abt 1887 Leeds and in Horsforth in 1891, 1901 with parents John & Mary E(llen).

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Ernest Hartley, mother’s maiden name Scholefield, birth reg Dec qtr 1886 Bramley 9b 360.

John Hartley marr Mary Ellen Scholefield, Jun qtr 1878 Bramley 9b 408.

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Baptised as Earnest [sic] Hartley, aged 2 months, on 22 Nov 1886 - Tong Rd Chapel (United Methodist Free Church).

Parents: Mary Ellen & John Hartley, of 5, 16th Avenue, New Wortley.

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Death notice for Mary Ellen

27 April 1917 - Leeds Mercury - Leeds, Yorkshire,