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Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« on: Sunday 23 December 18 17:47 GMT (UK) »
I am struggling to find the correct death record for my ancestor Jane Allen, maiden name Jane Dowler, in Birmingham.  She was born in 1800.

She died some time between being the informant on the birth certificate of her son Alfred Allen born 6th November 1845, registered 2nd December 1845, and the re-marriage of her husband Samuel Allen on 26th March 1851 at St Edburgha, Yardley, Birmingham to Harriet Day.

I got the death certificate for 23rd August 1848, Birmingham, but it is probably the wrong one as the handwriting looks as though her husband was called William and his job a silver plater.  Samuel was a button burnisher, and his family seem to have been button manufacturers.

I looked at all the possibilities I could find on the GRO index, and there is a death listed for a Jane Allen in Aston in March 1848.  The age given is also 48.

As her son Alfred was born in Birmingham, it doesn't look too promising that the Aston record is correct.  Her other many children were also born in Birmingham.

I am wondering if the record for a Jane Allen who died in Birmingham in December 1845 age zero could be hers with a misrecording or mistranscribing of her age? 

I noticed that when my ancestor, her youngest child Alfred was born in November 1845, that it took a month to register his birth and the task fell to the mother.  She would have been 45 years old and borne many children, and it took a long time for her to be able to do it, and it seems odd that another family member couldn't have been the informant.  It looks just possible that she wasn't well after the birth of her last child and this death record for December 1845 was her but with the age recorded wrong.  There is also a possibility that Alfred had a twin who died....

Is there any way to find out short of ordering the death certificate to see?

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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:03 GMT (UK) »
There's a newspaper death notice, which I don't have full access to (sorry!)
Birmingham Journal, 19 February 1848
.....Jane, the beloved wife of Mr. Samuel Allen of Villa Street....

(transcription not too good!)
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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:16 GMT (UK) »
You could also look at burials
A Jane Allen was buried in February 1848 at Key Hill Cemetery
No more free info to say if the right one though.
https://birminghamburialrecords.co.uk/search/records

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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:23 GMT (UK) »
There's a newspaper death notice, which I don't have full access to (sorry!)
Birmingham Journal, 19 February 1848
.....Jane, the beloved wife of Mr. Samuel Allen of Villa Street....

(transcription not too good!)
John

Thanks, that information is fantastic.  I have struggled to find anything.  I can look up Villa Street...


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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:25 GMT (UK) »
The next word(after Villa) is Handsworth.

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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Yes, but the word at the beginning giving her age would be more helpful!
after a short illness, deeply regretted in her tsih year

It does look like it will be the right Jane.
Good luck!

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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I thought the location was the issue,  y preview page had 48 quite clearly.
Here’s the clip

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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:33 GMT (UK) »
Find a Grave
Jane Allen at Key Hill Cemetery
born 1800
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/195499539/jane-allen

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Re: Death record for Jane Allen, Birmingham, between 1845 and 1851?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 December 18 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Villa Street looks to be in Aston in 1851, Allen families living there, also a death of a Jane Allen March qtr 1848 Aston aged 48
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