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Offline Roy G

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Barbara J Hilton
« on: Monday 24 December 18 08:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The marriage of the late Barbara J Hilton gives her a birth in West Derby (Liverpool) in 1927 and lists her father as Dr Charles Hilton, medical practitioner.  What is known however, is that Charles' family took over caring for her because she was born illegitimate. I have no idea whether there was an official adoption procedure, or if this was something the family did unofficially.

I only have a short copy of Barbara J Hilton's 1927 birth cert, but the GRO reference confirms that her mother's surname was also Hilton, so am presuming that her mother was another member of Charles' Hilton family.  Although I am applying for a copy the full certificate, I would like to gather in advance, any further info that anyone has on Dr. Charles and his family of Liverpool Hiltons.  Anything, even simple addresses from Kellys' directories or names from electoral roles would certainly be helpful.

Thanks in advance
Roy G

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 December 18 09:23 GMT (UK) »
There is no Dr Charles Hilton in the UK Medical Registers for 1923, 1927 or 1931.
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 December 18 09:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello
In the UK Medical Directory for 1895
Charles Hilton
90 Buckingham Road Brighton
L.D.S.F.P.S. Glasgow 1890 (Kings College)
Dental Surgeon
Brighton, Hove and Preston Infirmary

This was the only Charles Hilton that I could see



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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 December 18 09:45 GMT (UK) »
It seems that there was no Dr Charles Hilton registered in the UK at that time.

Does the marriage record really state the place of birth?
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 December 18 09:54 GMT (UK) »
The West Derby birth reg doesn’t show a middle initial.  Are you sure it corresponds to the marriage you have found?

Added: perhaps you have inherited the certificate (short copy) so that’s how you know it’s for the right person?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 December 18 10:07 GMT (UK) »
 Lots of questions I’m afraid.

Where, when and to whom did Barbara marry? The Dr Hilton who brought her up where did he live?

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 December 18 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Have you found her in the 1939 register?
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 December 18 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

As you may have gathered, I am trying to walk that difficult line, where in order to retain some sort of privacy for the descendants, I am obliged to withhold (or not publish) too much of the more recent information. 

I can write that the late Barbara became a nurse and married in Folkstone in 1952 under what is presumed to have been her birth name.  The short birth certificate which she must have applied for herself in 1988 verifies her basic birth details which were in the West Derby district.   Searches on FreeMD (Marriages 1952 Folkstone, Kent and births 1927 West Derby, Lancs 1927) should give you almost as much as I presently know. 

Her father was listed on the marriage cert as a medical practitioner named Charles Hilton, although I initially misread the handwriting and thought he was a Chester Hilton.  I opted for Charles because I could find no Chester's of any sort whatsoever.

When I know more I will let you know, but it does seem from your response that even Dr. Hilton was highly mobile, and I will have great difficulty tying him down to a specific location for any significant period of time.  I had not thought about the 1939 register, but even if I had, unfortunately I have no access to it.

At the moment, all I can do is thank all of you for your interest and input, and write that I am keeping my fingers crossed that you or another Rootschatter can eventually come up with that eureka moment.

Regards for Christmas
 Roy G

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 December 18 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi     

To potentially save Rootschatters wasting effort duplicating research . . . . .

There is an online tree.     (ie public)     

Middle name "Joanna"     

She married "Douglas Herbert Hecter Lee"

It has young parents listed, not Hilton.


Roy, what would you like me to do?     
Publish, here, what is in public view?     


Regards     

Ray
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