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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 29 December 18 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Dr Frederic De Havas was the founder and principal of Salmons Cross School which opened in 1948.

Regrettably I canít find any documentation of Marjorie/Barbaraís name change on Gazettes Online (perhaps unsurprising if she was merely reverting to her birth name).

I did find a notice of the naturalisation on 9 December 1948 of Havas Friedrich Kisunyoni (known as Frederic de Havas), formerly of Hungary, a teacher, of Salmonís Cross, Lonesome Lane, Reigate, Surrey.

(London Gazette, 18 January 1949).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 29 December 18 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Best to wait for news from Roy when he gets the certificate.
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 29 December 18 12:23 GMT (UK) »
I am going to stop digging on this one.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 09 February 19 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi those that showed an interest, I'm back.

The Birth cert and adoption details did not take long to arrive, but my contacts were on their travels when they did.  I have therefore had to wait until they got back and forwarded me some more info.

I now know that I am looking for Barbara's mother, a Janet Hilton who was living in the Liverpool area in 1927. The two most likely candidates on FreeBMD are the one born Wigan and the other born West Derby.

I also need to check up on two Liverpudlian addresses in 1927-1928
Joseph Shaw of 38 Lyall Street, Everton,
and the surname Hilton at what appears to be 44 Towngate? Road, Liverpool.
The latter is certainly something ----gate, and I am hoping that it is a family address rather than an institution for unmarried mums.

So if you have any old Kellys directories from that era lying around, I would much appreciate a look up.

Regards Roy G

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 09 February 19 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the update, Roy.

What was the address on Barbaraís birth certificate?
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 09 February 19 21:49 GMT (UK) »
44 Towngate? Road, Liverpool.
Or a word that looks like Towngate

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 09 February 19 22:00 GMT (UK) »
Yes I thought it must be.

There is a tree showing the Wigan lady with two husbands but I canít see a marriage to either.

The Janet in West Derby Registration district might also have been married more than once.
If you look on Free BMD, there is a Liverpool marriage for Janet Hilton in 1932.
1939 register indicates a change of name for her but I canít see a marriage.
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 09 February 19 22:05 GMT (UK) »
I canít find a Towngate Road by searching.

http://liverpool.streetmapof.co.uk/t/2
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #62 on: Sunday 10 February 19 06:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for looking heywood and your further input.

i will do my best to follow up the two lines you suggest, but you have also made me think of a further line of enquiry.  Many of us (me included) assume that when a lady has a child and fails to declare the name of its father, she has found herself in that predicament because she is both youthful and has never been married.  That may not be the case, so it will be another option I must consider.

Regarding Town?gate;-  The address on the birth registration definitely has about 4 or five letters in front of the word 'gate' so I am looking for a Liverpudlian 'Road' (not Street or Crescent, that existed in 1927 and fitted that format. Is there a street directory on the Internet that I could search?  If that fails, I will do my best to insert an image to see if others can decipher it.
(Note, I've been with Rootschat for well over a decade now, but have yet to use their facility for adding an illustration)

Regards Roy G