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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #45 on: Friday 28 December 18 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Could the scenario be that the Liverpool born Barbara Hilton became Marjorie/Margery A Shaw (not M D Shaw) and then as an adult reverted to her birth name?

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #46 on: Friday 28 December 18 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Could the scenario be that the Liverpool born Barbara Hilton became Marjorie/Margery A Shaw (not M D Shaw) and then as an adult reverted to her birth name?

Yes, as per reply #21 I think that is likely - but not the 1927-registered Margery A Shaw b Worksop, because again she has an independent birth registration so is a different person (and indeed as I recall you? found evidence she may have ended up in Australia).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #47 on: Friday 28 December 18 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I thought she may be discounted but don’t understand why you mention Marjorie D Shaw in reply #44.

1939 is Marjorie A.
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #48 on: Friday 28 December 18 21:06 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I thought she may be discounted but don’t understand why you mention Marjorie D Shaw in reply #44.

Only because at reply #37 Roy G was being encouraged to buy the birth cert of M D Shaw on the basis that it might be a re-registration of Barbara’s birth following an adoption, and at reply #42 Roy G came back asking about this notion of a “re-registration”.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #49 on: Friday 28 December 18 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Oh dearie me  ::)
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #50 on: Friday 28 December 18 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ladies and Gents. 
The string has got remarkably long in a very short time, so it is quite understandable if some of you have failed to pick up elements that have already been sorted. In order to not triplicate what has gone before, here is a quick summary.

IT IS AFFIRMED that Barbara Hilton (born West Derby 1927) became Marjorie A Shaw (almost certainly by adoption), was residing in Wales in 1939 and later moved to Scotland.  She left there in 1949 and reverted to her original Hilton name.  She then married in 1952 and out of respect for members of the family, I have no wish to broadcast anything from after that date 

There are trees for her on 2 major websites, but am beginning to doubt their accuracy, especially those that suggest her mother's maiden name was not Hilton, but Jones.  I am already awaiting the arrival of a copy of the full birth certificate to see if that gives more info on her birth mother or has something attached that relates to an adoption.  In addition, I also have to approach those agencies which may have adoption and name change details in the new year and after that I should have a better understanding of the overall picture.

That's about where we are at at present.

I would like to thank you all for your input, but unless any of you make a major discovery, its about time to take time out to affirm the findings so far with supporting documents.   

Thanks again.  I will let you all know if anything significant subsequently transpires.
I do hope you all have a Happy New Year.
I'll be back on Rootsachat then

Regards Roy G

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #51 on: Friday 28 December 18 22:11 GMT (UK) »
I don’t think anyone is failing to keep up.

Do update when Barbara’s birth certificate arrives.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 29 December 18 10:58 GMT (UK) »
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It appears that the code connected to the 1939 Register entry might signify a change of name.
I believe DMS is a location in Surrey.

Yes - "DMS" is Reigate.

The name change was probably around the date given - since she would presumably have needed a National Identity card, ration books in her new/original name.

1949 electoral register
Reigate South Ward
Lonesome Lane
"Salmons Cross"
de Havas, Frederic
de Havas, Frances M.
Clarke, George
Shaw, Marjorie

1950 electoral register (qualifying date 20 November 1949)
Reigate South Ward
Lonesome Lane
"Salmons Cross"
de Havas, Frederic
de Havas, Frances M.
Clarke, George
Hilton, Barbara
Bourne-Taylor, Effie

1951
"Salmons Cross"
de Havas, Frederic
de Havas, Frances M.

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 29 December 18 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Dr Frederic De Havas was the founder and principal of Salmons Cross School which opened in 1948.
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