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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #90 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi
It could have been, they are not error free. But I must admit that I only looked at one of them closely. Is it a difference between spring/autumn registers?
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #91 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 17:25 GMT (UK) »
From what I could see they were both Spring - unless I missed the title page.
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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #92 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Turns out that there are two different registers on there.
On ancestry, under Liverpool, West Derby Register of Voters 1925
Image 697 (of 1546)
Spring 1925
38 Lyell Street
is Joseph Shaw

Image 1473 (of 1546)
Autumn 1925
38 Lyell Street
is John Shaw

"John" Shaw has votes in both parliamentary/local elections.
Very strange! But it looks like a mistake as it was Joseph first!

Liverpool, West Derby Register of Voters 1924
Image 1446 (of 1518)
Autumn 1924
Confirming that no Shaw at 38, John or Joseph! John + Harriet Williams still listed.
John

EDIT
Mrs J. Bryce at 26 Huskisson St in the Liverpool Phone Book, 1984 (November)

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #93 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 18:48 GMT (UK) »
This is a most fascinating family investigation.  Not only does it consist of several unmarried mums who fail to declare who the father of their offspring was, but at any stage when we seem to be getting nearer the truth, everyone seems to manufacture hypothetical ancestors and opt to change identities. 

So every input seems to bring me just a bit closer to the truth, but also provides further problems to solve.  The latest, the official movement from Nunn to Bryce, is another inexplicable addition, and there are no kids on FreeBMD to verify any aspect of either union.  This probably explains that when Barabara's legitimate daughter was approached to become a magistrate after the necessary background checks, Barbara flew into a frenzy and refused to collaborate. 
I think it was Shakespeare who first wrote those most applicable lines,
        "Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive."   

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #94 on: Thursday 14 February 19 09:19 GMT (UK) »
The official certificate which I have now seen a copy of confirms that Barbara was adopted by Joseph Shaw of 38 Lyell Street Everton.
BUT There is no mention of Joseph Shaw having a spouse on that certificate! 
I find it unusual that in 1928 a female child can be adopted by what appears to be a lone male.
Is this just the way adoption certificates were done then?

The Adoption Act 1926
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1926/29/pdfs/ukpga_19260029_en.pdf

2. Restrictions on Making Adoption Orders, may answer your question!

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« Reply #95 on: Friday 15 February 19 06:24 GMT (UK) »
Which says
2.—(1) An adoption order shall not be made in any case where—
(a) the applicant is under the age of twenty-five years, or
(b) the applicant is less than twenty-one years older than the infant in respect of whom the application is made :
    Provided that, where the applicant and the infant are within the prohibited degrees of consanguinity, it shall be lawful for the court, if it thinks fit, to make the order notwithstanding that the applicant is less than twenty-one years older than the infant.

(2) An adoption order shall not be made in any case where the sole applicant is a male and the infant in respect of whom the application is made is a female unless the Court is satisfied that there are special circumstances which justify as an exceptional measure the making of an adoption order.

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #96 on: Friday 15 February 19 06:50 GMT (UK) »
I am hoping it is not on A, My H or F M P for I don't have membership of any of those and when links are sent, those websites no longer provide me with free access. 

If you can just register with ancestry.co.uk as a free member (painless!), or if you are perhaps already registered as such, there is free access to UK records this weekend (starting now!)

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #97 on: Saturday 19 September 20 10:17 BST (UK) »
Hi to all those who responded to this topic at some stage.

More recent further researches have resulted in a need to ask a few more questions.

I am trying to find out a little more about
(A) June Edith Jones who was a pre or postwar headmistress of a school in or near Wigan
(B) Who was living at 101 Miles Street, Liverpool in 1942.

Are any of you in a position to help?

Thanks
Roy G

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Re: Barbara J Hilton
« Reply #98 on: Saturday 19 September 20 10:51 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this helps

101 Miles  Street - Electoral registers

1939/40
Walter and Mary Aston

1945
Edwards Mason (might be Mason Edwards?)
Leonora Woollam
Clara Williams
Richard Jones
John Williams
Eliza Grace Bloor

1950
Eliza and James Bates
Turner family (3 persons)
Richard and Gladys Williams

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