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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 27 December 18 18:14 GMT (UK) »

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Ella Hall Turner - 28 September 1903 - passed away  17 Jun 1994 - Father Charles Hall - Mother Rose Gilliam -

https://macombvitals.macombcountymi.gov/death.php

Ella R Hall married 8 October 1921 -    Detroit, Wayne, Michigan - spouse Francis A Turner -

1930 census Concord Avenue Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.

Frank Turner   35 Ellen R Turner 26
Robert L Turner   8 Leonard G Turner 6
William H Turner 5 Rose M Turner 3 Lillian L Turner 2
Herbert Howey   21

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X79R-2Y7

1940 census Van Dyke Avenue detroit Wayne Michigan

Frank Turner   42
Ella R Turner   36
Robert Turner   18
Leonard Turner   16
William Turner   15
Rose M Turner   13
Lillian Turner   12
daughter "E M" Turner   4
son "D" Turner   1
Edward Dragan   25

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH91-1VY

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 27 December 18 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Ella Turner Death Notice -  Detroit Free Press - 20 June 1994 - page 12

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/26559062/ellaturner/

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 27 December 18 19:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I'm hoping someone might be able to help. My great-grandfather's brother was Charles Bertram Hall, born in Chichester around 1871/2. Ancestry lists his baptism as 25 February 1871, and his birth is indexed in January 1872. I have census records for 1881 and 1891 and a possible 1911 census where he shares the same occupation as his father (baker), but after that nothing. Ancestry lists a Charles Bertram Hall in their Michigan Naturalisation Records with a US Census entry in 1920, but I can't access these on my subscription. This may or may not be the same person who may have emigrated. If someone were able to let me know whether there's anything in the US records that might confirm if this is the same CB Hall or not I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks for any help.
Best wishes,
Jon.

Charles Hall died in 1929.

Death Certificate:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n6w/

His wife Rose died in 1939.

Death Certificate:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n6x/

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Their son Albert E. died in 1992

Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n6y/

Albert's wife Doris died in 1979.

Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n6z/

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 27 December 18 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Daughter Eva Hall mentioned on the 1920 census married Robert Mitchell - 15 February 1930 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.
Eva Mitchell and Robert are mentioned on the 1930 census with mother Rose Hall.

1940 census shows the couple with a daughter

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHSJ-S86

Robert Mitchell - 19 March 1908 - passed away March 1984 - Last Residence   
48185 Westland, Wayne, Michigan.  SSN issued Illinois (Before 1951)

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Eva Mitchell - 28 February 1911 passed away 29 August 1995 - Last Residence:   
48093 Warren, Macomb, Michigan.
SSN issued Michigan (1951-1952)

Detroit Free Press - 31 August 1995 -  Page 22

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/26560123/eva_mitchell/

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 27 December 18 20:21 GMT (UK) »

Barbara Joyce Maunz - daughter of Eva nee Hall Mitchell -

SSDI - Barbara Joyce Maunz (nee Mitchell) - 24 January 1937 passed away 30 December 2010 -

Obituary :-  http://wujekcalcaterra.tributes.com/obituary/show/Barbara-Joyce-Maunz-90494412

https://macombvitals.macombcountymi.gov/death.php

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 27 December 18 20:23 GMT (UK) »


Karl Maunz - husband of Barbara Joyce nee Mitchell Maunz -

Detroit Free Press - Page 20 - 6 April 2007

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/26561310/karl_maunz/

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 27 December 18 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I'm hoping someone might be able to help. My great-grandfather's brother was Charles Bertram Hall, born in Chichester around 1871/2. Ancestry lists his baptism as 25 February 1871, and his birth is indexed in January 1872. I have census records for 1881 and 1891 and a possible 1911 census where he shares the same occupation as his father (baker), but after that nothing. Ancestry lists a Charles Bertram Hall in their Michigan Naturalisation Records with a US Census entry in 1920, but I can't access these on my subscription. This may or may not be the same person who may have emigrated. If someone were able to let me know whether there's anything in the US records that might confirm if this is the same CB Hall or not I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks for any help.
Best wishes,
Jon.

It looks as if Charles Hall and Rose Gillam Hall with there children immigrated to Michigan perhaps because the brother of Rose - Thomas Gillam was already living and married there.

Not the line you are following but a few snippets on the Gillam family.

marriage - Thomas J Gillam to Maude P Roush - 12 September 1906 - Wayne Michigan.
Thomas parents - William Gillam - Mother's Name Anna Harmar.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNLD-DCW

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-JXW9-C?i=245&cc=1810350

1900 Milwaukee Avenue Detroit Ward 5, Wayne, Michigan. (living with Thomas Morley and loads of others)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9B1-QWZ

Thomas Gillam March 1882 - single - boarder - painter - carriage -

1910 census Brandemere Hamtramck, Wayne, Michigan.

Thomas Gillam   28
Maude Gillam   23
William Gillam   2
Orris D Gillam   0

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLT8-9VR

1920 Census California  Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan.

Thomas Gillam   36 Maude Gillam   32
William Gillam   12 - Orris Gillam 10 -  Thomas Gillam 5

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ7P-ZJP

1930 Census Westchester Street Grosse Pointe Park, Wayne, Michigan.

Thomas J Gillam 47
Maude M Gillam   43
William J Gillam   22
Orris D Gillam   20
Thomas W Gillam   15
Robert C Gillam   9
Minnie Mcclemont 56 sister-in-law.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7SB-H1X

1940 Census California Avenue Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan.

Thomas J Gillan   57
Maude M Gillan   53
Thomas W Gillan 25
Robert C Gillan   19
Orris D Gillan   30
Rosella F Gillan   27

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHM4-48W

Thomas James Gillam born 5 April 1882 Brighton England passed away 18 October 1947    Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KFQC-WKJ

WW1 Draft Registration Card -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6XC-RLS

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G18M-HG2?cc=1968530

WW2 Draft Registration Card

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4ST-YG4

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-K4SZ-ZB?cc=1861144

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 27 December 18 21:22 GMT (UK) »

There is a US Border crossing Canada to the USA - 12 August 1904 -  for Thomas Gillam - aged 22 years - painter - single - last residence Brighton. Home 4 Lyman Place detroit. - had been in the USA 1898 - 1904 -
travelling with him was Mary Gillam - aged 29 years - spinster - last residence Brighton - had been in the USA 1894 - 1896.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X2NC-F57

New York Passenger List 29 september 1898 - Southampton to New York - on the Pennland - Thomas Gillam - Coach Painter -

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Re: Charles Bertram Hall from Chichester - did he naturalise to the US?
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 27 December 18 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Another Gillam brother Harry Gillam was also in Michigan - Harry Gillam born 1874 and aged 25 years married 11 February 1899 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.  Spouse Hannah Rebekay - parents - Wm Gillam
Mother Ann Harmer.

1900 census Grand River Ave Detroit Ward 4, Wayne, Michigan.

H Gillam 26 born England. Imm 1891. Poultry dealer. married 1899.
Hannah Gillam   26 born Germany.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9BY-2KX

1910 Calumet Avenue Detroit Ward 4, Wayne, Michigan.

Harry Gillam   33
Johanna Gillam   34
Henry Gillam   8
Helen Gillam   6
Edward Gillam   4
Frederick Gillam   2

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLTJ-49W

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RVF-9MDM?cc=1727033

1920 census Calvert Ave Detroit Ward 4, Wayne, Michigan.

Harry Gillam   46
Johanna Gillam   39
Henry Gillam   19
Ileenn Gillam   16
Edward Gillam   14
Frederick Gillam   11

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZW3-J37

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRNF-46T?cc=1488411

1930 census Glynn Court Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.

Edward Gillien   25
Esther M Gillien   24
Jacqueline R Gillien   4
Hannah Gillien   50

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X793-WXJ

WW1 Draft - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K6NF-2ZS

Passport Application - Harry Gillam for a visit to see relatives -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5B-HB52

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9X3-MCHY?cc=2185145


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