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Service Record Signature
« on: Saturday 29 December 18 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Dear All,

I am looking to get a copy of a signature to compare it with that on a marriage certificate.

Does anyone know if it is possible to find a copy of a signature from a Royal Marine 1915 sign up without going all the way to Kew?

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 December 18 10:12 GMT (UK) »
If it’s not a burnt record then it will be on one of the pay websites, (won’t it? )

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 December 18 10:16 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure what a "Royal Marine" was but Find My Past seem to have some naval records. Whether that includes a signature or not, you would need to check for yourself.

There are people who visit Kew who may be able to assist, or Kew themselves may offer a research service, and if you are sure they hold the records, and you only need a quick lookup, the cost may not be too bad. It would not hurt to sent them an enquiry.

What year did he marry and what was his occupation on the certificate?

I'm sure someone will be able to help you further.

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 December 18 10:17 GMT (UK) »
I don't know

perhaps someone can confirm this for me?

I am looking for the signature of Herbert William Wilkinson RMLI enlisted Plymouth 22nd June 1915 register number 898.

Ken


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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 December 18 10:31 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast has his service record (born 1892) but that does not show his signature.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 December 18 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Have you got signatures on the original marriage certificate?

The certificates you receive from the GRO will be a copy of the register. Although it doesn't show your ancestors actual signatures it will show if your ancestors could sign their name. Those who couldn't marked with an 'x'.
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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 December 18 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Medpat,

Herbert was married in South Africa and we have a copy of that certificate with his signature on it.
We have narrowed Herbert down to 2 or 3 possibilities ( He was English) but we cant be conclusive so are looking for another record with a matching signature.

We had thought he was the same Herbert William born Downham Market in 1892 and this does fit with various other bits of information we have BUT a dna test from ancestry is linking him to a different Wilkinson line from Essex. We cant however find any Herbert Williams in that Essex tree.


We thought we were there but the DNA has muddied the waters so its back to looking for a matching signature

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 December 18 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Do you mean a photocopy of the original or a copy from a central registry because only a photocopy of the original cert. or register will have the correct signatures. A central registry like GRO copy the details and that's what you receive when you send for a copy of a cert..
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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 December 18 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Service record shows he was born in Norwich.  NOK was originally a sister (Evelyn) in Cape Town but then replaced with a father (W) in Gateshead.

He was a POW in Germany 1917-1918.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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