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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 December 18 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Service record shows he was born in Norwich.  NOK was originally a sister (Evelyn) in Cape Town but then replaced with a father (W) in Gateshead.

He was a POW in Germany 1917-1918.

Yes this all fits well but this damned DNA info that has subsequently come to light is linked to a different Wilkinson family and we cant link the two

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 December 18 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Do you mean a photocopy of the original or a copy from a central registry because only a photocopy of the original cert. or register will have the correct signatures. A central registry like GRO copy the details and that's what you receive when you send for a copy of a cert..

We have his actual signature from his South African certificate.

He was a policeman in Fish Hoek

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 December 18 15:34 GMT (UK) »
The RMLI man who was a POW was born 1 March 1892 (from his own service record) in West Dereham Norwich (you wrote Downham Market).

His POW records have 3 references to S Africa (make allowance for the fact that they are made by someone for whom English is not their first language).

First has 7 Clyan St Capslow Africa (sic)
Second has Cape Town Sth Africa
Third has Mrs A Warnes 7 Glervyn Street Cape Town South Africa.

With the reference to a sister in S Africa on his record that Nanny Jan notes, that gives 4 pointers to S Africa.  There is also reference on his record to father W in Oldfold St Gateshead.  I would ask, never mind the DNA,  how well does the other Essex line fit all that?

There will be no other service record for him so no trip to Kew necessary!

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 December 18 16:36 GMT (UK) »
The RMLI man who was a POW was born 1 March 1892 (from his own service record) in West Dereham Norwich (you wrote Downham Market).

His POW records have 3 references to S Africa (make allowance for the fact that they are made by someone for whom English is not their first language).

First has 7 Clyan St Capslow Africa (sic)
Second has Cape Town Sth Africa
Third has Mrs A Warnes 7 Glervyn Street Cape Town South Africa.

With the reference to a sister in S Africa on his record that Nanny Jan notes, that gives 4 pointers to S Africa.  There is also reference on his record to father W in Oldfold St Gateshead.  I would ask, never mind the DNA,  how well does the other Essex line fit all that?

There will be no other service record for him so no trip to Kew necessary!

MaxD
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Hi Max,

Indeed a good dose of reality and this is where I had gotten to until the pesky dna reared its head.

I have this information too but not the pow stuff , may I ask where you got it?

This kicks the Essex line into the long grass where it was to start with.

We also have this Herbert William in the 1911 census and he has moved with his father to the N East to Penshaw near Houghton le Spring and his father has become a miner.

We also have a HW Wilkinson on the boat from the UK to Cape Town of the correct age listed as a miner. All makes sense to me but again as I said the dna put the brakes on us hence the search for a matching signature

Cheers

Ken

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 December 18 16:48 GMT (UK) »
There is an attestation record for Herbert Wilkinson, with his signature on it...
Burrell - Mainly London area
Wallace - North-East England
Starling - London, Cambridge & Suffolk
Park - London, Derbyshire & Lancashire

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 December 18 16:52 GMT (UK) »
I would add - it is not a naval record, there are a few other HW WIlkinsons - all Army as well though
Burrell - Mainly London area
Wallace - North-East England
Starling - London, Cambridge & Suffolk
Park - London, Derbyshire & Lancashire

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 29 December 18 17:01 GMT (UK) »
On the Red Cross POW site:
Start here

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Search/#/3/2/224/0/British%20and%20Commonwealth/Military/wilkinson%20herbert%20william

Click in the middle of the record, that brings up a red banner for further info.  Enter the PA numbers one at a time, these bring up three records from different stages of his time as a POW on which the SA references are to be found.

I think you've got him!

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 December 18 17:40 GMT (UK) »
There is an attestation record for Herbert Wilkinson, with his signature on it...
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Thanks Bertie

Does this document have any other info about this HW Wilkinson?

Cheers Ken ]

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Re: Service Record Signature
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 29 December 18 19:32 GMT (UK) »
There is an attestation record for Herbert Wilkinson, with his signature on it...

Hi Bertie

I have just compared signatures and they don't look the same to my untrained eye so maybe dna is winning the day!

Thanks

Ken