Marriage by licence help

[mezentia]

Richard Stonyer married Mary Oakden by licence on 8 March 1873 in Snelston ( see image on Ancestry: Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/61409/rs00013304_4450932-00698/93496995 ) The PR entry tells us that Richard's home parish is Llanfillyn in Montgomeryshire. Both signed, with witnesses Joseph Wagstaff, John Harriss and Elizabeth Banks, as far as I know all unrelated to either Richard or Mary.

FamilySearch also has this:

Name: Mary Oakden
Event Type:
Event Place: Snelston, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place: Snelston, Derbyshire, England
Age: 25
Marital Status: Widow
Occupation:
Spouse's Name: Richard Stonger
Spouse's Residence County: Montgomery
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Marital Status: Unknown
Spouse's Occupation: Miller
Spouse's Birth Year: 1752
Affiliate Film Number: GBPRS/STAFF/MARRLICENCE/107324/2
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GS Film Number: 007619202
Digital Folder Number: 007619202
Image Number: 00630

Citing this Record
"England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLQB-2RN7 : 16 March 2018), Mary Oakden and Richard Stonger, 1773.

The search result also lists the residence as Llanfyllin, whilst confirming Richard's occupation of miller and the ages for both of them. There's at least 4 corn mills in and around Llanfyllin.

Knowing the propensity for familysearch to leave stuff off its transcriptions, and as I seem unable to get to see the image for their record (Image Unavailable This image is unavailable for online viewing at this time.  ), can anyone else find an image relating to familysearch's entry?

The discovery on the image on Ancestry and now the familysearch entry with the ages for Richard and Mary now causes me to re-consider a large chunk of previous research into this Richard and Mary Stonyer; a substantial family I had attributed to these two may now belong to a different Richard and Mary Stonyer. Curious as well as to whom Mary was previously married, and was Oakden her maiden name or the her first husband's name? I don't seem to be able to find any children for this Richard and Mary either in Snelston or Llanfyllin, so any help there would also be appreciated.

Cheers

David

[CaroleW]

by licence on 8 March 1873 i

Should be 1773

[mezentia]

Oops! Digital dyslexia 

[CaroleW]

Don't worry - It's very easy to do     

[BumbleB]

Images of the Marriage Bond and Allegation are available on FindMyPast. 

Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield & Coventry Marriage Allegations And Bonds, 1636-1893

[emeltom]

A word of caution regarding Richard's age. Although the Licence states that Mary is aged twentyfive years, in the case of Richard it says 'twentyone years and upwards'.

Emeltom

[BumbleB]

Mary might also be older than 25 "and upwards" added after her age.

I don't think that an earlier marriage for Mary to ? Oakden is the one I saw in 1767 - Edward Oakden and Mary Heath - as her age is given as "30 years and upwards".    Or the 1772 marriage between George Oakden and Mary Clowes "22 years and upwards".  Both marriages by Licence.

[emeltom]

There is also a marriage for a Mary Docksey to a Simon Oakden in Snelston in 1766. The licence for that one also says she os 25 so I guess that one can be discounted as well. Also no death found for Simon.

Emeltom

[BumbleB]

How about a burial at St Bartholomew, Blore Ray - 9 September 1768 - Simon Oakden of Snelstone?

And - Hope DOCKSEY Oakden of Snelstone, buried 25 October 1768 at Blore Ray + baptised 25 March 1767, son of Simon and Mary Oakden of Snelstone (transcription from Family Search)