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1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« on: Monday 31 December 18 05:20 GMT (UK) »
This link is from the Scottish indexes - Register of Extracted Decrees.
I was thinking of purchasing this record but going by the example given I doubt if will give me any additional helpful information.  If you think otherwise I would take the plunge.
https://www.scottishindexes.com/courttranscript.aspx?courtid=35001023
Pursuer   Marion Pollock, daughter of and residing with Andrew Pollock (Grocer, Airdrie), Stirling Street, Airdrie
Defender   Margaret Storrie, High Street, Airdrie
Child's Date of Birth   1845
Year Extract Issued   1848
Sheriff Court   Airdrie
County   Lanarkshire
NRS Reference   SC35/7/1 p. 300
Notes   The defender Margaret Storrie of High Street, Airdrie is currently in posession of the pursuer's 3 year old illegitimate son (date of birth not given), which she has been asked to hand over to the pursuer (the child's father is William Cook, Underground M.


I am trying to find any of the people mentioned in this record in either the 1841 or 1851 census.   I would think unless Andrew Pollock died between 1848 and 1851 being a grocer he would still be at the same address.  I have searched for every grocer named Andrew but nothing comes up for Stirling Street.   
I have no idea of anyone's ages.   The only clue is William Cook and Marion's daughter Margaret Cook was born circa 1843 in Old Monkland.  On Margaret's marriage certificate her father is deceased.   Her mother is listed as Marion Cook m/s Pollock but I cannot find a marriage certificate for William Cook to Marion Pollock. 
Unlike the England and Wales census I cannot scroll through page by page.   Any help/suggestion would be greatly appreciated. 
Thank you in advance.
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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 December 18 09:16 GMT (UK) »
1841 census, Main St, Airdrie
Andrew Pollock, 40
Elizabeth, 35
Marion, 12
Andrew, 12
Mgt, 7
James, 5
Eliz, 2
Marion, 60

Does this look like the family?      Perhaps the census was taken at Main St, while the Grocer's shop was at Stirling St.       Stirling St, is still there in Airdrie.       
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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 December 18 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Hello Doddsie4
I purchased this through Scotlandspeople.  Andrew's occupation is not a fit.   He is listed as a Ironstone Caster living in High Street. Otherwise I thought it looked good.
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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Haven't been able to find Andrew in the early censuses. There is this entry though in the Wills & Testaments section of Scotlands People:

Andrew Pollok
15/10/1880
Family Grocer, Westburn, Newton, d. 12/09/1880 at Westburn, Newton, testate
Glasgow Sheriff Court Inventories
SC36/48/93

There is a death in Mearns, Renfrewshire in 1880 for a 74 yr old Andrew Pollock. Only two in the whole of Scotland that year and the other entry is a child.

There is an Andrew Pollock in the 1861 & 1871 who is married to a younger woman called Martha. His occupation is that of joiner in these censuses though.

Which is your line? Daughter Marion? When did Marion get married? Did mother Margaret Storrie show as alive or deceased when Marion married? Did Marion go by the name of Cook/Pollock/Storrie?

Monica
   
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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 December 18 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Monica.  You have been searching hard on my account.   The line I am following is Cook.   Trying to get back a generation from Margaret Cook.  I know her parents are William Cook and Marion Pollock.  Other than names I have nothing on them.  William shows as deceased on Margaret's marriage certificate (1861) but not Marion. 
For all my searching I have not found a baptism for Maggie or a marriage for her parents.   To be honest I'm not a 100% sure this is the correct family it's just the details on the court case fit nicely. 
I don't mind buying a certificate or 2 or 3 but I just don't know where to start.  There are so many Pollocks and Cooks and none quite hit the mark.  I thought if I could find Margaret Storrie I might be able to work out her place in all of this.  Was she family (grandmother?) or friend?   
At a guess I'm putting Marion's birth late 1820s and her parents late 1700s - early 1800s
Margaret never named a son Andrew and she had 8.  Her 2nd son was James.  William was her 6th son.  I am going to purchase the 1911 census record to check the number of children, living v deceased.  Maybe I have it completely wrong.  I can't even find Margaret in 1851 unless she was working as a servant at age 11. 
Thank you for all your help.


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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 December 18 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi all there is a birth for a Andrew Cook 22 February 1844 New Monkland
Father William Cook
Mother Marrian Pollock

Wonder if this could be the child mentioned with Margaret Storrie ?

Rosie

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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 December 18 19:39 GMT (UK) »
With the earlier reference to a Margaret Storrie....think I went off the wrong road!

Your Margaret Cook shows her parents as William Cook and Marion Pollock. When and where was Margaret born? Who did she marry in 1861?

Monica

Added: Just sent your post, Rosie.....looks for good!
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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 December 18 19:55 GMT (UK) »
There is a William Cook address Sterling Street Airdrie in the 1841 Census
William Cook age 22 occupation Coal heaver

Elizabeth Cook age 22
Ann Cook age 24
Agnes Cook age 9
Alexr Cook age 9 months

No relationship given ..might be a possibility with the address ( Sterling Street )

Rosie

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Re: 1841 or 1851 Searching by an address.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 December 18 20:23 GMT (UK) »
The nearest record I can find for a Margaret Storrie is the 1861 Census
Address 128, High Street Airdrie Lanarkshire
Margaret Storrie age 80 born Airdrie
James  Brace age 57 boarder
Jane Clelland age 46 boarder

Obwan  did you order the full copy from the Court Records ?

Rosie