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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #9 on: Monday 31 December 18 09:50 GMT (UK) »
From Family Search.
Birth. 24 Sep 1861. Heidelberg. Mabel. Parents William Robert Charles  and Marianne Ainger Wiss. Baptised Karlsruhe.

Looks as if they left for Germany soon after their marriage and missed 1861 census.

Burial. 23 Sep 1885. Lambeth,  Surrey. Marianne Wiss. Age 50. (b c 1835)


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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #10 on: Monday 31 December 18 09:52 GMT (UK) »
This is most likely the marriage of their grandparents - they named a son Henry Campbell WISS.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP3V-CMRG

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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #11 on: Monday 31 December 18 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Probably William's baptism:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N8WW-N7Q

Wilhelm Robert Carl WIHS
Gender    Male
Christening Date    21 Dec 1826
Christening Place    STADTPFARREI EVANGELISCH,DARMSTADT,STARKENBURG,HESSE-DARMSTADT
Father's Name    James WIHS
Mother's Name    Mariane VOYS
Maternal Grandfather's Name    Wilhelm VOYS

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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #12 on: Monday 31 December 18 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Burial. 23 Sep 1885. Lambeth,  Surrey. Marianne Wiss. Age 50. (b c 1835)

St Jamesí Gazette, 24 September 1885

[Deaths]

WISS, Marianne, wife of Dr., of Stuttgart, at St Johnís, The Avenue, Upper Norwood, Sept 19.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #13 on: Monday 31 December 18 10:16 GMT (UK) »
So from the baptisms we see that William and Marianne had:

Mabel Wiss, born 24 September 1861
Campbell Wiss, born 13 September 1863
Lionel Ainger Wiss, born 5 May 1865

Was Alfred theirs?  The timing is tight for another son between Campbell and Lionel.

Anyway, Mabel married in England in 1884 and her brothers emigrated to Australia in early 1885.  Their mother Marianne died in south London later that year.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 December 18 10:20 GMT (UK) »
Deaths NSW:

26959/1945 WISS Campbell parents ROBERT and MARIANE NORTH SYDNEY
Death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17961038

A daughter: 27360/1950 WISS Evelyn Ada Ainger parents CAMPBELL and ALICE CHATSWOOD
Death notice, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18175096

Another daughterís marriage: 906/1931 COWLING Gordon A to WISS Eileen A CHATSWOOD

And the other married VIC: 1940 14372 PEATE Phillip Geoffrey to WISS Doreen Mabel

Death notice for Doreen: PEATE Doreen Death notice 10-2-2003 Death 87 at Perth, late of Melbourne The Age (Melbourne) 13-2-2003

Doreen Mabel PEATE
Karrakatta Cremation
Aged 87
Date of Death:10-2-2003
Suburb:CITY BEACH
Ashes Request
TAKEN BY ADMINISTRATOR AT KARRAKATTA CEMETERY

Death notice for Phillip Geoffrey, type 8 in little white box, or scroll to page 14: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19730108&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Appears his wife died in Tasmania, first column:

Death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17283323
Cremation notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article30123522

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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #15 on: Monday 31 December 18 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Queensland Times 12 Jan 1932 p8
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113216401?
....obit for Lionel A WISS.......brother Alfred returned to England.....Mr. Campbell WISS (Tasmania) is a brother, and Mrs. P. J. NEATE (London) is a sister. Canon AINGER, of the Anglican Temple (London) is an uncle.

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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #16 on: Monday 31 December 18 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello to all of you - Oh - My - what a wonderful lot of responses:

I can only see one reply button - so here goes.

Every reply has been duly noted:

A few comments:  Yes - I got it wrong, obviously about Marianne's death 1906 - So...that answered that.

Thank you for the Details of William Robert Charles Wiss' Birth details in German - that is wonderful.

Thank you for the University information -

Alfred? Family insists there was an Alfred -but no mention from them of a Mabel as a sister - so that will be interesting.

So.... Mabel was married - good detail.

About the WWI  report on Campbell Wiss.  Indeed I found yet another for WW II when he was 77 years old - He was reared in Germany and indeed, had a German accent. He was subjected to harassment via reports from "observant" people.
I found a document whereby he came down heavily on the people who censored his mail etc.,  He indeed was a British subject.
  After that, they left him alone.

Will follow up on possible marriage of Grandparents.

I trust my one coverage of all your replies is OK - all of you - Thank you so much.  You have added a wealth of information.

Lucygrasshopper



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Re: William Wiss,Marianne Ainger surnames
« Reply #17 on: Monday 31 December 18 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Iíve added to post #14

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams