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Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« on: Monday 31 December 18 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if I could use someones handwriting reading skills for a record.

I am looking at the church record of my ancestor: Isabella Rice. This is her death record. T

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06515/4876438.pdf

Isabella got married in 1836 to her husband William Rice - likely the one referred to as the informant in death record. However, the writing is very faint on the record and I have no idea what it says.

I have attached photos to show this.

Her date of death puts her as being born in 1816 and the marriage record says she was of the same parish as the church. So I checked the baptism records and didn't see the baptism of an Isabella. But I did see a baptism of an Isabella in 1813 with a very similar looking surname. But even still i can't read it - in fact I am not sure if the record is even related given the dates.

Does anyone have any idea what the names are?

Thanks for any assistance and Happy New Year.

Ireland:
Antrim - Chism, Bell, McKinley, Armstrong, Johnson, Allen
Ballymena - Ross, Stewart, Black, Wilson, McCarville
Belfast - Black, Gunion, Dornan, Gowdy, Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery
Carnmoney - Clawson
Dungannon - Creamer
Derrylin - Rice, Grieves, Breen, McManus, Lang
Lisnaskea - Downey
Magherafelt - Creamer, Blaney
Monaghan - Downey, Young
Newtownards - Blackwood, Morris
Newtownstewart - Hamilton, Irwin
Templepatrick - Lockhart, Cochran

Wales:
Llantrisant - John, Griffith, David

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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 December 18 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Image attached to this post as it didn't like me putting them in the main one.
Ireland:
Antrim - Chism, Bell, McKinley, Armstrong, Johnson, Allen
Ballymena - Ross, Stewart, Black, Wilson, McCarville
Belfast - Black, Gunion, Dornan, Gowdy, Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery
Carnmoney - Clawson
Dungannon - Creamer
Derrylin - Rice, Grieves, Breen, McManus, Lang
Lisnaskea - Downey
Magherafelt - Creamer, Blaney
Monaghan - Downey, Young
Newtownards - Blackwood, Morris
Newtownstewart - Hamilton, Irwin
Templepatrick - Lockhart, Cochran

Wales:
Llantrisant - John, Griffith, David

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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Second.
Ireland:
Antrim - Chism, Bell, McKinley, Armstrong, Johnson, Allen
Ballymena - Ross, Stewart, Black, Wilson, McCarville
Belfast - Black, Gunion, Dornan, Gowdy, Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery
Carnmoney - Clawson
Dungannon - Creamer
Derrylin - Rice, Grieves, Breen, McManus, Lang
Lisnaskea - Downey
Magherafelt - Creamer, Blaney
Monaghan - Downey, Young
Newtownards - Blackwood, Morris
Newtownstewart - Hamilton, Irwin
Templepatrick - Lockhart, Cochran

Wales:
Llantrisant - John, Griffith, David

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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Third
Ireland:
Antrim - Chism, Bell, McKinley, Armstrong, Johnson, Allen
Ballymena - Ross, Stewart, Black, Wilson, McCarville
Belfast - Black, Gunion, Dornan, Gowdy, Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery
Carnmoney - Clawson
Dungannon - Creamer
Derrylin - Rice, Grieves, Breen, McManus, Lang
Lisnaskea - Downey
Magherafelt - Creamer, Blaney
Monaghan - Downey, Young
Newtownards - Blackwood, Morris
Newtownstewart - Hamilton, Irwin
Templepatrick - Lockhart, Cochran

Wales:
Llantrisant - John, Griffith, David

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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Where did she marry?

If I am looking at the right name, is it Lang?
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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Kinawley Parish, Fermanagh.

Yeah it looks like Lang. I don't recognise that letter on the second image.

Yet, I don't recognise the name Lang at all from anywhere.

http://www.irishsurnames.com/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?name=lang&capname=Lang&letter=l

Is it this? I have never seen that name ever.

EDIT: I recall seeing a different record from 1816 it was an Alex Langan married a Betsy Flannagan. But even still. I thought it was Irving or something like that or maybe even Young.
Ireland:
Antrim - Chism, Bell, McKinley, Armstrong, Johnson, Allen
Ballymena - Ross, Stewart, Black, Wilson, McCarville
Belfast - Black, Gunion, Dornan, Gowdy, Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery
Carnmoney - Clawson
Dungannon - Creamer
Derrylin - Rice, Grieves, Breen, McManus, Lang
Lisnaskea - Downey
Magherafelt - Creamer, Blaney
Monaghan - Downey, Young
Newtownards - Blackwood, Morris
Newtownstewart - Hamilton, Irwin
Templepatrick - Lockhart, Cochran

Wales:
Llantrisant - John, Griffith, David

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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:37 GMT (UK) »
There are several Langs in the area looking at records.
Is your record from Rootsireland?
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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:43 GMT (UK) »
There are several Langs in the area looking at records.
Is your record from Rootsireland?

Yes, I took a look. I found the Alexander Lang in Griffiths.

I can't remember, they were posted somewhere. I tried making this post a while ago but it wouldn't let me upload the attachments for some reason.

I think your probably right, it likely is Lang though. Not sure about the birth date differing from the civil record though.

EDIT: And thanks for your help!
Ireland:
Antrim - Chism, Bell, McKinley, Armstrong, Johnson, Allen
Ballymena - Ross, Stewart, Black, Wilson, McCarville
Belfast - Black, Gunion, Dornan, Gowdy, Rice, Muldoon, Montgomery
Carnmoney - Clawson
Dungannon - Creamer
Derrylin - Rice, Grieves, Breen, McManus, Lang
Lisnaskea - Downey
Magherafelt - Creamer, Blaney
Monaghan - Downey, Young
Newtownards - Blackwood, Morris
Newtownstewart - Hamilton, Irwin
Templepatrick - Lockhart, Cochran

Wales:
Llantrisant - John, Griffith, David

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Re: Trying to Decipher surname from Church Record
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 December 18 18:47 GMT (UK) »
I think the Alexander Lang is a younger person than Isabellaís father.

Ages do vary. I canít see any early records to check. What religion where they?
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